Belinda and David Temple - Part 1

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Hi, I'm Tina and I'm rich
And if there's one thing we've learned in

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over twenty years of marriage, it's
that some days you'll feel like killing your

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wife and some days you'll feel like
killing your husband. Welcome to love,

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Mary Kill. Hey rich Hetia,
got your little pre son. There.

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You have my little juice box.
So cute. How are you? Probably

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talked about this before, but you
drink apple juice before we record because you

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heard it's good for your life.
I have read that it's good. I

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should be drinking some apple juice.
Been strongly with allergies. I'm curious if

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anyone else out there is the middle
of February, you wouldn't think allergies would

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be a thing intermittent all winter.
Yeah, if we could call this winter,

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because it's really beautiful here today it's
chili, but it's it's beautiful and

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sunny and blue skies. And in
Michigan in February you usually have like these

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milky white, drab skies. Yeah, and twenty below zero. That's quite

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bad, not really not that bad, but cold. So there's been a

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lot of news this week in the
true crime community as there. Ruby.

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Well, you know, we've talked
about Ruby Frankie was sentenced. She was

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the former YouTuber who her channel was
called eight Passengers. She has six kids.

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We did a Patreon episode on Ruby. But she was sentenced to four

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counts of one to fifteen years each, which is a very strange sentence.

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So she faces up to sixty years
in prison. That's a long time.

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From four she'll ultimately she'll be from
four to sixty years. Yeah, that's

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huge. Yeah, I very widely
sure she'll not have to spend sixty years

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in prison. Her nineteen year old
son, the one who had to sleep

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on a bean bag for like six
months, he posted something like he was

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smiling and he's very excited his mom
is in jail. Oh really Yeah.

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Her sentencing, she referred to her
kids as chicks and you know, apologized

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and it's all it's sad and yeah. Jody Hildebrandt was also sentenced to one

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to fifteen years as four counts of
one to fifteen years as well, which

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was a little surprising. There wasn't
a trial because both women had pleaded guilty,

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right, and they were sentenced at
the same time. Jody was the

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mastermind call. She's been called the
mastermind she was Ruby's business partner. They

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had formed their own YouTube channel about, you know, raising children and families

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and Jody's Jody was like her guru
in a way exactly, yes, and

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she's just kind of horrible. And
she was the one allegedly that like taped

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her son and put like what did
she put on his wounds? She worked

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the kids really hard and she had
them handcuffed, and they had a lot

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of wounds because of like the tape
and the handcuffs, and she put gosh,

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I can't remember, but just like
lemon or vinegar or something that you

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should never put out of wound.
Yeah, you know this case more than

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I do. Do you think the
sentence is reasonable? Obviously it's a really

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wide ring. Yeah, I mean
it's hard. I don't know, because

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one like one is not like four
years probably isn't enough, especially for Jody,

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who allegedly was the mastermind. And
Jody also was manipulated other families.

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And it was weird too because she
tried to keep Ruby away from her husband.

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And I don't know. He has
since filed for divorce and I think

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he has custody of the kids,
but I'm actually not sure what happened to

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the younger kids, but also this
week, Harmony Montgomery, do you know

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that story? I don't think you're
familiar, but not really. This story

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has haunted me for a couple of
years now. I've seen her sweet little

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face everywhere. Harmony Montgomery five went
missing in October twenty nineteen, but it

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took two years for her to officially
be reported missing to law enforcement. In

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twenty eighteen, Harmony was living in
Massachusetts with her mom, Crystal Sory,

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and her two year old brother,
Jamison. Crystal struggled with substance abuse,

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and the children were in and out
of foster care until July twenty eighteen,

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when Crystal permanently lost custody of Harmony
and Jamison, which is heartbreaking. In

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February twenty nineteen, Harmony went to
live with her father, Adam Montgomery and

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his wife Kayla in New Hampshire,
who were granted full custody. Kayla has

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two children from a previous relationship and
Jamison that Harmony's two year old brother was

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adopted by a couple in Massachusetts,
and that must have been really hard for

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Harmony because she really loved her brother
and she took care of him and really

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sweet little girl. Adam Montgomery was
given custody before the home study was completed,

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and he has a long criminal history
involving violent crimes and drug offenses,

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and he is accused in two different
shootings. He's not a good man.

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In April of twenty nineteen, Crystal
facetimed with Harmony and told her she was

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going to come see her for Easter. But sadly after that, Adam and

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Kayla blocked all communication attempts between Harmony
and her mom and that was the last

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time that Crystal saw her. In
July, a family member visited and noticed

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Harmony had a black eye. He
was so concerned he filed a report with

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Child Services. There was no record
that Harmony was enrolled in any school in

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New Hampshire, so she was just
kind of lost in the system. In

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November of twenty nineteen, the Montgomerys
were evicted from their house and living in

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their car. Crystal was trying to
find Harmony and at this point Crystal she

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got clean and she just wanted her
daughter back. In November twenty twenty one,

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she called and reported Harmony missing.
Eventually, Kayla and Adam were located

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and they claimed they hadn't seen Harmony
since November of twenty nineteen, when Crystal

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had picked her up, which isn't
true. However, they continued to collect

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government assistants in Harmony's name. Kayla
and Adam separated in October of twenty twenty

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one, and he was charged with
stalking her. On January fourth, twenty

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twenty two, Adam and Kayla were
both arrested in connection with Harmony's disappearance.

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During the two week trial that wrapped
up this week, Kayla testified that Adam

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beat Harmony and killed her in the
car after she'd had an accident. She

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was potty trained, but she was
really scared of her father and he was

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mean. He put her body in
a walk in freezer where he worked,

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and later disposed of her body in
an unknown location. He was found guilty

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this week of five charges second to
re murder, second to degree assault,

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witness tampering, falsifying evidence, and
abuse of a corpse. He was not

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present in court for the trial or
the verdict. That's strange. In New

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Hampshire, you have the option of
appearing or not appearing, but this man,

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he's just so horrible face. That's
yeah, that's really horrible, sad

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story. Harmony's body has never been
found. No, I'm sorry to share

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this with everyone, but it's just
been on my mind so much. Yeah,

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I can see why. I just
we need to remember her and honor

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her and say her name and just
a little heartbroken over little Harmony. Well,

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I have another horrible story to tell
you today. Thank you to our

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friend Kylie at Primetime Crime for recommending
this case for us. Kylie's the sweetest.

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If you haven't listened to Prime Time
Crime, go give Kylie a listen.

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She does a lot of she does
two cases a week, and she

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does a lot of true crime news. But it was I mean, the

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true crime community is so generous.
She told me, Yeah, you should,

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You guys should really do this case. It fits better with you guys,

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And it does. So I'm going
to tell you the story of David

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and Belinda Temple. I want to
make sure I don't forget to give credit

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to the source for this case.
The source I use most was a book

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called Shattered by Catherine Casey c.
A. S. E. Y.

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Any quotations that we're going to read
are going to come from her book.

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Excellent book. We read a lot
of true crime books, and hers was

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just so well thought out and so
refreshing when you read a really good one,

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because there are a lot that are
not quite so well thought out.

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Right, there's mistakes and a lot
of them. A lot of them are

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rushed to press, and so there's
a lot of date mistakes. But this

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book was just so well thought out
and she did an amazing job. Cool.

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But before we get to the case, I do have a snack for

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you, and I'm excited, are
you? I'm just really hungry? Yeah,

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are you really? Yeah? I
haven't eaten yet today it's eleven fifty.

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Our friend Jace from Texas, I
think she's from Texas messaged me about

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BUCkies and no BUCkies. You love
BUCkies. BUCkies sounds like we would vacation

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there because it's a gas station,
but it's like known for their great snacks

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and they actually have their own brand
of snacks and I ordered some to share

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with you today. We've had these
for like over. I don't know when

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we got we've had these for a
while, but jac said we should get

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the beaver nuggets. In my hand, I have the BUCkies beaver nuggets.

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Oh have they made from real?
I hope that I really hope not.

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I don't think. Let me read
the ingredients. Now there's some brown sugar

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and corn meal and but let's take
a quick break and we'll try these beaver

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nuggets. Alrighty, that was delicious
for me. They're like corn pops but

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in like syrup, kind of like
pancakes. Yeah, it's kind of really

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good, like brown sugar taste.
Yeah, they're delicious. They're crunchy,

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crunchier than like a typical corn pop. But yeah, it's like a or

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sugar sugared corn pop. Well,
thank you, Jaysy for the thanks justin

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They're great. I can't wait to
go to a bucket. So there's one

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in Ohio somewhere, which is the
one nearest, but it's like Ohio,

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like five hours away. Trip.
I'm sorry to go back to Adam Montgomery.

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I realized I didn't say that he
hasn't been sentenced yet. He was

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in jail for a previous crime to
shooting. So I think that he he

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hopefully will be in jail for the
rest of his life because that's where he

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deserves to be. What a horrible, horrible man. I forgot to mention

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that this is going to be two
parts, because there's a lot. Okay,

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buckle up. Our snack today is
Texas based, and so is our

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case. Nice. You know,
I love a good snack. Tie into

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the case. We try, but
it's not always possible. I need to

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start. I need to bake more
things. Lately. We've been really busy

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lately. It's been hard. Okay, We're going to go to Katie,

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Texas. Katie, Texas is a
rapidly growing city about thirty miles west of

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Houston, with a population of about
twenty two thousand. I feel like I

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know somebody who lives in Katie,
but I can't remember. You could go

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to Facebook, maybe find that out. Maybe. Many people who work in

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Houston commute from Katie because of their
good schools and affordable housing. In the

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eighteen hundreds, Katie was known as
Caine Island for the creek that ran through

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it and for the tall, woody
stemmed grasses that grow there. The MKT

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railroad often shortened to KT, ran
through the area. In the late eighteen

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hundreds, when the town was formed, its name was changed to Katie.

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Kat Y Cotton, corn and peanuts
were originally grown on its fertile land,

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but today Katie is known for its
rice fields. On September eighth, nineteen

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hundred, the deadliest hurricane in US
history, known as the Great Galveston Hurricane,

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a Category four storm, tore through
Katie and flattened the town. Only

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three homes remained. The total number
killed is unknown, but thought to be

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at least twelve thousand. Just for
reference, about eighteen hundred people died in

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Hurricane Katrina. Katie is eighty five
miles inland. Wow, that's crazy.

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This is crazy. It had that
much damage. Katie is called the waterfowl

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capital of the world. Birds migrating
south flock to Katie for its vast rice

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fields. The Katie Bengal Tigers football
team, the Pride of Katie, have

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won eight state championships. Impressive.
Thomas Eaton Lucas, originally from Dunbar,

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West Virginia, met Carol Maxine Morris
when he was living in Port Huron,

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Michigan, her hometown. Every case
leads back to Michigan, it doesn't it.

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He worked as the manager of a
dime store and Carol worked at a

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dress shop two doors down. They
fell in love and married on July twenty

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second, nineteen sixty two. They
moved to Martin's Ferry, Ohio, to

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be closer to Tom's parents, and
Tom got a job at the steel mill.

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The Lucas children arrived in quick succession, Brian Barry, who was deaf,

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and Brent. They'd given up on
having a girl, but on December

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thirtieth, nineteen sixty eight, Carol
delivered not one, but, to her

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great surprise and delight, two perfect
little girls, Brenda and then Belinda,

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eight minutes later. Belinda was two
pounds smaller than her sister, and when

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he learned of this double blessing,
Tom said, quote, I got weak

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in the knees and thought I was
going down. I threw my wide brimmed

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had in the air, and I
whooped and hollered nice. Belinda's nickname was

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number five. Brenda's was Shrimpy,
coined by her sister. Belinda, born

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the smaller twin, quickly caught up
and passed her sister in size. She

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became the dominant twin with her bright, smile and spunky personality. Although Belinda

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was the youngest, she was Brenda's
protector. She learned sign language, the

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only family member to do so,
and became her deaf brother Barry's biggest champion.

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That's great, but I'm kind of
shocked the rest of the family didn't

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learn sign language. I think he
could. He was good at reading lips

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okay. Carol stayed home with her
brood of fun loving kids while Tom worked

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long hours to support the family.
Tom had an accident while working at the

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sawmill, which led to years of
pain and physical therapy. Business at the

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sawmill declined and the family decided to
move to Nacodochus, Texas. Today do

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that it sounded great to me,
the oldest city in Texas, which was

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founded in seventeen seventy nine. Tom
opened up business selling marble, sinks and

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counts. After the move to Texas, the family said that Tom changed.

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He suffered from depression and became more
controlling. He ruled the family with an

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iron fist, especially the girls.
Tom's changing attitude caused cracks in the family

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dynamic. They would never be as
close as they once were. As the

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kids grew up, some of them
splintered off and spent less time with their

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family and started their own lives.
The girls were active in FFA, raising

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cows and chickens. They also played
basketball and baseball. Brenda favored spending time

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with the animals, while Belinda favored
playing or watching sports. She worked part

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time at Burger King In high school, Blinda had a bubbly personality and a

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lust for life. She was voted
most school spirit in high school. She

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really loved cheering on the sports teams. It's maybe a dumb question, but

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what's FFA. It's funny because I
forget that everyone grew up in Yeah,

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FFA is Future Farmers of America.
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of it, though, I guess
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We had a lot of FFA kids
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little blue jackets and they were embroidered
with their name. And yeah,

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weren't always the coolest kids. But
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a farm and he was in FFA. Yeah it probably had a heart of

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gold. Nice kid, but yeah, maybe not the coolest guy. Oh

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really, hope he's not listening.
As school ended in nineteen eighty seven,

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Belinda decided to pursue a degree in
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education teacher and a basketball coach.
Brenda attended the local college in Nacodochis Stephen

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F. Austin University, and majored
in animal science and biology. Blinda stayed

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at home and took classes at the
community college while she worked part time at

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a local grocery store. She and
Tom fought about curfews and her freedom.

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She got a second job as an
aerobics instructor and moved into an apartment with

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two friends. Blinda had dated the
same boy through high school, but ended

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the relationship after he cheated on her. The next fall, Belinda transferred to

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Stephen F. Austin or SFA University
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Belinda met fellow SFA and big Man
on Campus David Temple. Big Man on

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Campus such a weird phrase. Well, in this case, it's really appropriate.

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Yeah, it has double meaning,
Okay. David Temple was a small

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town hero known for his athletic prowess
on the football field. David grew up

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in Katie, Texas. Friday Night
Lights Territory. That's a great show.

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That's my favorite, one of my
favorite shows. Top five. On Friday

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nights, businesses shut down early as
residents flood the football stadium that seats nearly

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ten thousand to support their beloved tigers
ten. That's such a huge stadium.

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Yeah, for high school. David
Temple's family has lived in Katie, Texas

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for generations. His parents, Maureen
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Ken worked in it and was also
and ordained minister. They had three

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sons, Darren, David, who
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Kevin. The Temples were known as
a good Christian family. The Temple family

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carved up parcels of the family's former
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The close knit family enjoyed spending time
together. A favorite activity of the

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Temple boys was bird hunting in the
rice fields. A large part of their

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childhood was spent hunting on the property
from an early age. David, who

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was husky and muscular, loved football
and was a standout player. It didn't

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hurt that he'd been held back a
grade and was bigger than the other kids.

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At five foot eleven and two hundred
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beast on the football field. He
destroyed several helmets a year. David was

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charming and charismatic and got away with
a lot at school and at home.

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He was the star of his family, but friends sometimes saw a dark side

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to him. When his longtime girlfriend
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life miserable and made sure his friends
did too. It was rumored that he

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wrung her pet rabbits necksf's horrible.
Yeah. The Katie Tigers football team had

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come up against a long dry spell. David was their shot at breaking that.

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David, number eighty three was a
middle linebacker. What is a middle

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linebacker? That's somebody who's in the
middle of the line, in the back

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of the line, not on the
line. Linebackers are there like behind the

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defense. They can either like drop
back and do pass protection, or they

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can rush. If I was going
to play football, it'd be a fun

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position to play because he get to
do everything. Okay, you're not that

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big though, No, I'm not
that big. It's a defensive player or

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defending the offensive line. Defensive okay. Among the cheerleaders on the sidelines rooting

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for David and the Tigers was a
small blonde named Renee Zellweger. She also

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played basketball and ran cross country.
I believe for the senior superlatives. She

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also was like voted dream date or
something like, Wow, she looks kind

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of I'll post a picture. She
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Yeah, I mean, I guess
we all do, h true. David

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was known to have a hair trigger, and he was a bully. He

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was condescending to his classmates. A
former classmate said, quote, David Temple

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was always ready for a fight,
and he acted like he thought he was

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better than the other kids. He
was a bully. He treated ninety percent

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of us like we were a step
down from him, ignoring us unless he

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singled us out for some kind of
abuse. End quote. As his star

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as an athlete rose, he became
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David became cockier and sometimes got into
screaming matches with his coaches. He

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believed he was destined for the NFL. He suffered a devastating injury in the

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first scrimmage game of his sophomore year, which ended his season. He required

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two surgeries to repair the injury,
but David fought hard to return stronger than

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ever. For his junior year.
He worked so hard that he was able

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to bench press four hundred and thirty
pounds, although there were whispers in the

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locker room that he was taking steroids. Okay, four hundred and thirty pounds,

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that's a lot. I know it's
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lot, a lot. I mean, I can only bench like four twenty,

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So it's yeah, it's it's impressive. You are very impressive, my

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love. I'm sorry I didn't put
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yes, what can you never mind? You do pretty well too, I

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do well with the twenty pound dumbells
that we have. David knew that he

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had what it took to make it
to the big leagues. His cockiness and

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swagger knew no bounds. When David
disagreed with his coaches, he became irate

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at times and yelled aggressively in their
faces. A former teammate said, quote,

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David crossed the line. When I'd
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I'd intervene. Sometimes I talk to
him about keeping the aggression on the field

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where it belonged. David could be
explosive, and he didn't always know how

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to turn it off. Unquote,
David's aggression soon transfer referred to his classroom

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teachers and even to home. One
fight at home resulted in David grabbing a

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shotgun and threatening to kill his brother. During David's junior year, he caught

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the eye of college recruiters from major
universities like Nebraska, Arkansas, Oklahoma,

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and the University of Texas. In
the fall of nineteen eighty six, the

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Tigers had a fantastic season and won
every game, but lost the championship.

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David's star as a local hero remained
bright. Everyone in Katie, Texas knew

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who he was. They wanted to
shake his hand or pat him on the

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back to thank him for a great
season. Unfortunately, for David, all

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of the major football programs decided not
to make him an offer. At five

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foot eleven, he was deemed too
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I had to just do a quick
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that short to me. And the
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foot two, so three inches taller, which is not that much different.

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But if that's the average, though, I don't know. I mean,

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this was twenty over twenty years ago, so I don't know. Maybe it

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was different. A rash of car
thefts broke out in Katie, radar detectors

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had grown in popularity and were being
stolen from unlocked cars to be resold or

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pawned. An undercover police officer bought
one from David, he was arrested along

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with one of his friends. The
friend ratted David out and said they were

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stealing to get money to buy steroids. Although David was tied to as many

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as eight thefts, he was charged
with only one misdemeanor count of attempted burglary

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and given three days in jail along
with one hundred dollars fine. With his

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legal troubles behind him, David was
offered a five year scholarship to Stephen F.

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Austin University in Nakadochis, Texas.
He accepted the offer. What do

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you think of David so far?
Seems like the classic big man on campus.

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Just a hot head, kind of
just a big well. I wonder

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how much of the hot headedness came
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a side effect of taking steroids,
or it just could have been as horrible

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personality that might have been it.
Stephen Fuller Austin, who lived from seventeen

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ninety three to eighteen thirty six,
is known as the founding father of Texas

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back in time, little whiplash,
Sorry, he brought three hundred families along

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with their slaves to Texas and gave
them land. He died at the age

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of forty three from pneumonia while he
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Austin, Texas is named for him. Stephen F. Austin University opened in

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nineteen twenty three as a teaching college. Several buildings on campus are said to

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be haunted. Today, the university
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system. In the fall of nineteen
eighty six, about twelve hundred students were

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enrolled at SAF. SAF athletic teams
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Jacks. I'm not sure why I
felt compelled to tell you more about Stephen

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Fuller Austin, but I thought it
was a little entendus. I've never heard

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of it, so always nice to
learn new things. David settled into SAF,

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taking classes and playing for the Lumberjacks. It wasn't long, though,

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before he began pummeling anyone who got
in his way. He again developed a

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reputation as a hot head and bully
with a hair trigger. It's unclear if

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David was still using steroids, but
he was bigger and stronger than ever,

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once hitting a player on the football
field so hard that his back was nearly

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broken. And I wanted to mention
that David has the biggest head I've ever

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seen. Really, Okay, I
took a break to show you a picture,

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and you didn't seem that impressed.
It's a huge head, and we

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both are not known for our small
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He showered three to four times a
day and wore the latest fashions,

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always named brand from head to foot. Even his socks had to be named

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brand. He was a hard worker
and a leader on the field. He

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made the most of every minute of
practice and game time. He started as

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middle linebacker his sophomore year and also
played on special teams. He was an

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aggressive beast on the field. He
earned the nickname Temple of Doom, his

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last name being Temple. The Lumberjacks
won the conference title for the first time

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in the school's history that year.
David began dating Pam, an education major,

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his first year at SAF. At
first, David was sweet and thoughtful

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of sending her red roses frequently,
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But she was still proud to date
the star football player. She said,

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quote, David was my first real
relationship. He was a football star and

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a really cool guy, and he
was my first love. When asked about

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his controlling nature, she denyed that
it bothered her. I just felt loved,

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she said. The Temple family embraced
Pam. She spent holidays and vacations

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with them. Everyone was sure they'd
get married one day. As time passed,

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their relationship grew more tumultuous and violent. Pam would break things off,

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only to get back together days later
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Despite the volatility in their relationship,
Pam wanted to marry David until one

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night when she was out of town, a friend reported seeing David slow dance

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with Belinda Lucas. He told her
it was nothing and begged her to take

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him back, but days later he
ended things permanently with a heartbroken Pam.

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Years later she would be glad he
did. Belinda Lucas loved the freedom of

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college life and not having her father
breathing down her neck constantly. She studied

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and worked hard, but also found
time to have fun. Blinda was bubbly,

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full of life and the life of
the party, but she was also

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confident and not afraid to stand up
for herself when for herself or others when

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she noticed an injustice. She dated
casually, and she wasn't ready to be

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tied down. That is until she
met David Temple. She fell quickly for

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him, despite his reputation as a
menace, He treated her like a princess.

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He loved that Belinda was athletic and
liked sports. He was a gentle

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giant to Belinda. When David's parents
came for a game and met her for

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the first time, they were smitten
with her. Two They thought David and

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Belinda were a perfect match. They
liked the calming effect that she had on

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their son. They didn't fight like
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David's father said, quote, Belinda
was there for keeps. We did everything

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for Belinda that we would have done
for a naturally born daughter, and we

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loved her unconditionally and without hesitation.
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dog together, a chow they named
Shaka. Shaka was very protective of his

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owners. Belinda's friend and her twin
noticed a pared down version of her when

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she was with David. She didn't
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She went along with whatever he wanted. Her friends and Brenda didn't like

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David and found it annoying that he
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seemed to be football. Belinda's parents, however, did like David. He

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was very polite with them, but
he didn't seem very interested in getting to

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know them or being a member of
their family. Belinda's best friend, Stacy

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Rios, over heard David referring to
the Lucas family members as white trash and

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rednecks, but Belinda made excuses for
his behavior. David went to a few

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NFL training camps to attempt to get
signed as a free agent in the summer

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of nineteen ninety one, but no
teams made him an offer. That fall,

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his last playing for SAF, David
was given honorable mention as an All

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American linebacker. Is that a big
deal? I don't really know. I

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would imagine, I guess. I'm
not sure what division SAF was in.

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It seems like a smaller school,
but yeah, I'm sure that's a pretty

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nice honor. Yeah. In October, David asked Carol and Tom Lucas for

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their blessing to propose to Belinda.
They approved, they thought David was a

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fine young man. David proposed on
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Belinda said yes with tears in her
eyes. How can they say that

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he's obsessed with football and his whole
world revolves around football? Grilch. Of

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course, David's football career for the
Lumberjacks ended. He left the school with

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three impressive records, most tackles four
hundred and ninety two, most unassisted tackles

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three hundred and nine, and most
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Two of those three records stand today. Impressive. She's very impressive. We'll

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be back right after a break.
We both lunch by that bath of peaver

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nuggets so good as soon as we
said we're taking a break, because we

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usually do actually take a break and
go to the bathroom. But that was

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pretty fun. I love those things. I might be one of my favorite.

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It'll be a Me Love Mary Kill
Snack Hall of Fame. Yeah,

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00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:49.880
we should actually do that. That's
a good idea. Maybe every year we

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should do it. We know even
have a list of what I'm sure a

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listener out there has been cattle wucking
snack. Back to Belinda and David.

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Belinda and David were married just weeks
after the proposal on January fourth, nineteen

409
00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:10.119
ninety two. They were both twenty
four years old. They both graduated in

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May of nineteen ninety two with degrees
in physical education. Belinda also earned a

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degree in special education. They decided
to stay at SFA for an additional year

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00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:23.400
to get their master's degrees while they
lived in student housing. The next fall,

413
00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:26.799
David took a job as an assistant
coach for the Katie Tigers, his

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00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:32.759
old football team. He coached the
linebackers and the track team. The newly

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00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:37.359
weeds rented a house in Goodrich,
Texas. Belinda was hired as a special

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00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:41.079
education teacher at a nearby middle school. David was busy with his new job,

417
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:45.359
especially during football season, Belinda rarely
saw him. She told a friend

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00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:48.519
that she thought he might have been
having an affair, but she brushed the

419
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:53.240
thought off as not a good sign
that early on. That's really early to

420
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:57.039
be having an affair. YEA and
everything seemed like it was going his way.

421
00:30:57.079 --> 00:31:00.359
It must have been super exciting for
him to be a coach for his

422
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:06.359
high school football team where everyone,
not everyone, but his coach has loved

423
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:07.839
him. Yeah, he was like
a celebrity locally, right, And yeah,

424
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:11.960
his whole life revolved around it.
Everything's going his way. He gets

425
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:15.880
to move back to his hometown,
closer to his parents, and yeah.

426
00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:19.119
The Temples moved to Hastings, Texas, which is between Katie and Houston.

427
00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:25.000
The next fall, David got a
job as an assistant defensive football coach,

428
00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:30.279
track coach, and physical education teacher. The school district also hired Belinda as

429
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:34.519
a special education teacher, basketball coach, and volleyball coach. Their new house

430
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:38.920
was just fifteen minutes away from David's
family. They attended the same church as

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00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:44.960
the Elder Temples and a Sunday dinner
together each week. They almost never saw

432
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:48.640
the Lucas family, though a family
member later remembered the couple's early days together.

433
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.359
Quote when they came, they still
looked so happy. In the beginning,

434
00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:56.799
they were, I think, but
over time that changed end quote.

435
00:31:56.799 --> 00:32:01.079
Cracks in the marriage began appearing.
Neighbors could sometimes hear the couple arguing.

436
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:07.039
Friends witnessed Belinda becoming quieter in David's
presence. She rushed home to make dinner

437
00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:12.720
every night. David expected her to
keep an immaculate house and iron all his

438
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:16.440
clothing. At Hastings High School,
David wasn't a well loved teacher or a

439
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:21.720
coach. He was harsh with his
players and students and frequently lost his temper.

440
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:24.480
Belinda, on the other hand,
was a beloved teacher known for her

441
00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:30.079
school spirit and over the top holiday
celebrations. In late nineteen ninety four,

442
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:34.960
Belinda learned she was pregnant, due
in April with a boy. They were

443
00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:39.319
both very excited. Evan Brett Temple
was born on April thirteenth, nineteen ninety

444
00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:45.240
five, at two am. He
weighed seven pounds fourteen ounces. Belinda was

445
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:49.440
thrilled to be a mother. She
was seen rollerblading around the neighborhood with Evan's

446
00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:53.039
stroller. Weeks after giving birth.
She confided in a neighbor that David wanted

447
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:57.759
her to lose the baby weight,
but Belinda was not overweight or out of

448
00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:01.680
shape. David really David's huge guy, but he really had a problem with

449
00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:08.119
women's bodies. And he just didn't
like fat women. Yeah, he seems

450
00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:14.559
like, I don't know, just
kind of the stereotypical jerk husband, you

451
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:17.880
know. Yeah, he's horrible.
Brenda, now living in Kansas, came

452
00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:22.359
to visit soon after Evan was born. David was cold and stand offish to

453
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:28.119
her. He didn't like being around
Belinda's family and discouraged her from spending time

454
00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:31.440
with them, even her twin.
Although they continued to see David's family multiple

455
00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:37.440
times per week, Belinda was exhausted
by her grueling schedule taking care of an

456
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:42.039
infant, teaching and late night coaching. She took a job at Katie High

457
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:45.839
School in the fall of nineteen ninety
six as a science and math specialist so

458
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:49.319
she could spend more time with her
son, so she stopped coaching after that

459
00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:54.279
point. Gotcha. Quentin and Tammy
Harlan were new to the Katie area together

460
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:59.039
since high school. They were a
happily married couple with one young daughter and

461
00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:02.200
another on the way. Quinton was
hired as a football coach at Hastings High

462
00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:07.720
School along with David. Tammy was
also a teacher. The couples had a

463
00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:12.760
lot in common and became fast friends. They got together frequently for cookouts and

464
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:16.920
cards. During the football season,
Belinda and Tammy attended the Hastings football games

465
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:22.480
together, loudly cheering other husband's teams. I guess if you're a football coach's

466
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:27.920
wife, you're kind of like a
football widow because it's a very demanding career

467
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:31.000
for sure. And yeah, they're
not home a lot after the football games.

468
00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:35.320
David would head to a bar while
Belinda went home, just another one

469
00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:38.159
of the duties of a football coach. Head to the bar after head to

470
00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:45.559
the Chilies Friday night lights reference,
Yeah, I got it, a small

471
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:49.239
town reference. The Chilies are the
Applebee's. Yeah, I don't really think

472
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:52.679
that's where they went, though.
David would badger Quinton to come to the

473
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:55.519
bar too, but he preferred to
go home to his wife. Good job,

474
00:34:55.559 --> 00:35:00.719
Quinton. On some nights, though
Quentin tagged along. He witnessed David

475
00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:06.760
flirting with and sometimes leaving with other
women. Blinda wanted another baby and convinced

476
00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:10.159
David to buy a house. Blinda
tried really hard to save money and David

477
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:13.719
was more of a spender, so
I think that was a point of contention.

478
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:16.400
She really wanted to buy a house
and he really wanted more things like

479
00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:20.840
he wanted a new truck and things
like that, but they were able to

480
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:24.519
buy a house. They bought a
two story red brick home at two two

481
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:30.920
five zero two Round Valley Drive in
the Creekstone subdivision, a few miles from

482
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:34.679
their rental house. It was a
nice house on a corner lot with a

483
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:38.639
large backyard, probably nicer than the
young couple could afford. When they were

484
00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:43.159
short on the down payment, Brenda
took a cash advance on a credit card

485
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:47.599
and sent Belinda the money, but
they did pay her back quickly. In

486
00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:52.239
the summer of nineteen ninety seven,
David's tenuere high school reunion rolled around.

487
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:58.599
He didn't want Blinda to accompany him. She was extremely hurt. Wo rumors

488
00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:02.719
swirled that on the first David hooked
up with his high school girlfriend. The

489
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:07.239
next night, Blinda did go with
David, but she left crying after he

490
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:12.280
humiliated her by flirting and carrying on
with other women. That's awful. It

491
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:16.039
seems like he it seems like he
mentally never progressed out of high school.

492
00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:22.800
That's just my dime store psychology assessment. I think that's a very good assessments.

493
00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:27.480
I think he Yeah, he'd like
to live in the glory days.

494
00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:30.840
And you know, he probably talked
to people all the time when he met

495
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.320
them, you know, like,
oh, I was, I have records

496
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:39.239
and right. As Tammy and Belinda
became closer, Tammy's disdain towards David grew.

497
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:44.800
She hated how her friend was treated. She was an adoring wife and

498
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:47.920
mother, but David was never satisfied. He was degrading, controlling, and

499
00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:52.760
mean to Belinda. He called her
names and talk about how hot she used

500
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:55.920
to be. Belinda's parents didn't live
far away, but she rarely saw them.

501
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:00.519
David refused to visit them and grew
angry and soul and when Belinda and

502
00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:05.760
Evan went rarely for a visit.
Like with so many other people in her

503
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:08.960
life, Belinda portrayed a happy marriage
to her parents. She didn't see them

504
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:13.679
as often as she liked, but
called them every Sunday. Hi, Mops

505
00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:16.960
and Pops. It's number five,
she'd excitedly say. Blinda was the glue

506
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:21.800
that held her family together, and
when she wasn't able to attend family gatherings,

507
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:25.679
they all stopped coming around. David
had once been obsessive about his yard,

508
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:30.079
but neighbors noticed that Belinda now took
care of the mowing and trimming.

509
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:34.800
Belinda's bright and fun personality slowly disappeared, and she was a shell of her

510
00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:39.039
former self. Okay, that's not
exactly true I wrote this, but I

511
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:43.119
think at home that's how she was. At school, everyone loved her,

512
00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:47.920
and she was still very abuliant and
charismatic, and she got to know a

513
00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:51.800
lot of the kids, and I
think she was lunch room monitor and she

514
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:54.760
greeted the kids in the hallway every
morning. So though she was a special

515
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:59.360
ed teacher, she was well known
to the whole student body and well loved.

516
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:01.239
So it sounds like and she got
to be away from David and doing

517
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:05.079
her own things. She was her
usual self, but when she was kind

518
00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:07.840
of under his thumb or doing things
that she felt like she had to because

519
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:13.719
she was scared of him, than
she kind of a different personality. She

520
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:16.920
would confide in her friends and co
workers, but later backpedal and talk about

521
00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:22.480
what a wonderful husband he was.
So there was moments of vulnerability, but

522
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:24.199
then she'd be like, oh,
but you know, it's fine. Yeah.

523
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:30.480
Blinda began seeing more and more charges
from bars and strip clubs on their

524
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:34.719
credit card, and when she confronted
David, he stopped talking to her for

525
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:39.400
weeks. I think the silent treatment
is just a really horrible form of abuse

526
00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:43.559
and control. Yeah, it kind
of is. When I was growing up,

527
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:46.199
my mom would occasionally give me the
silent treatment for like days at a

528
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:50.159
time, and it was worse than
any punishment. My mom did that too.

529
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:52.800
Actually, yeah, I don't think
we ever do that to each other.

530
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:55.599
No, no, no, no, really, we're perfect. We

531
00:38:55.679 --> 00:38:59.440
are perfect. I was gonna say
one time, my mom and I were

532
00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:02.639
driving across the country together. We
were driving to California to see family,

533
00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:07.119
and we got in a fight at
one point, and my mom didn't talk

534
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:09.440
to me for two days. We
drove in the car all day. Did

535
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:14.480
you just like talk to yoursel phone? I don't know. I just would

536
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:16.679
sat in silence. Well, your
mom was a lovely one. She was

537
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:19.960
a lovely woman. Yes, but
she could get she could get me.

538
00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:27.280
You're probably just I probably deserve Probably
is their marriage deteriorated, Blinda leaned more

539
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:30.679
heavily on Tammy for support. Tammy
now had three young children and grew tired

540
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:37.079
of giving Blinda advice and her tolerating
David's horrible behavior towards her. David was

541
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:40.800
a thorn in her side and a
horrible influence on her husband, and their

542
00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:45.880
marriage suffered from Quentin's friendship with David, and she decided to put some space

543
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:49.800
between the two couples. She and
Quinton had been arguing more and she since

544
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:53.880
that he was picking up some of
David's attitude and behavior. I think that's

545
00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:59.559
something that Tammy felt guilty about for
many, many years to come, because

546
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:04.559
I understand this, Oh yeah,
totally. David was hard to be around.

547
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:07.519
And I mean I've had friends like
this too, Like they always call

548
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:09.719
you complaining and you give them advice, and you give them the same advice

549
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:15.159
and then they don't take it and
gets really frustrating. But then, what

550
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:20.199
you don't understand if you're not in
an abusive relationship is that Belinda, she

551
00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:23.519
couldn't push pushback, or you know, she would be met with the silent

552
00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:30.239
treatment or other forms of control.
Yeah. In the summer of nineteen ninety

553
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:32.840
eight, Belinda was over the moon
when she became pregnant with a baby girl,

554
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:38.280
whom she planned to name Aaron Ashley. She was due in February David

555
00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:44.199
was excited at first, but Belinda
prepared for Aaron's arrival by herself. She

556
00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:49.480
painted and decorated the nursery and put
the crib together without David's help. Belinda

557
00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:52.000
loved being a mother and couldn't wait
to welcome her daughter, but she struggled

558
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:58.000
keeping her optimism and normally sunny disposition. She felt like she was doing all

559
00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:01.480
of it alone because she was.
David was rarely home, and when he

560
00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:07.079
was, he was distracted. David
had isolated her from her family and friends.

561
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:10.800
Weekends were usually spent with the larger
Temple clan. There was never time

562
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:15.000
for just Belinda and David. She
continued to put on a happy face most

563
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:19.760
of the time and was always the
loudest cheerleader at the games he coached.

564
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:23.800
Brenda planned to come to Texas for
Christmas. She planned to stay with her

565
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:29.719
twin. The sisters were looking forward
to spending their first Christmas together in years,

566
00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:32.800
but David made Belinda call Brenda and
tell her not to come. He

567
00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:37.880
said they'd be too busy celebrating the
holidays with his family. Belinda confided in

568
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:43.280
friends that she thought David was having
an affair. She was heartbroken. But

569
00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:45.360
she was coming to terms with the
fact that her marriage might be over.

570
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:51.360
In the fall of nineteen ninety eight, Quinton began a flirtation with a pretty,

571
00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:54.880
young, blonde English teacher, Heather
Scott. She was from Arkansas and,

572
00:41:55.199 --> 00:42:00.199
like Belinda, had a twin sister. A large group of teachers began

573
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:02.880
going out for happy hours after school, and Heather, Quinton, and David

574
00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:07.920
were all part of this group.
David and Quinton were best friends but also

575
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:13.000
rivals. David didn't like being beaten
by anyone, and he also began hitting

576
00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:16.639
on Heather. Gossip soon spread that
Heather was getting too close to the football

577
00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:23.280
coaches. The wives didn't like it
and nicknamed her Barbie Bitch. Tammy said

578
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:27.800
quote. They said she had a
thing for football coaches. At first,

579
00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:32.840
I wasn't worried about Quinton end quote. Heather and David began dating and spending

580
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:37.119
a lot of nights together at her
townhouse, as he had with Pam and

581
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:43.119
Belinda. He loved bombed Heather with
flowers and other small generous gifts. So

582
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:49.800
he's dating Heather when his wife is
at home with their young son, and

583
00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:53.239
she's very pregnant at this time.
Yeah, what a guy. Meanwhile,

584
00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:58.519
Heather was still leading Quinton on.
She sent him flirty emails throughout the day

585
00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:01.760
and even kissed him once. Quinton
was not aware that Heather and David were

586
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:07.039
already in a sexual relationship. As
staff caught wind of David and Heather's affair,

587
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:10.840
they gave him the cold shoulder.
They knew his sweet, devoted wife

588
00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:15.639
was pregnant. One day, he
walked into the office and asked a staff

589
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:20.119
member to make copies for him.
She responded tartly, ask your girlfriend to

590
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:22.679
do it. David responded, I
don't have a girlfriend. I'm married.

591
00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:28.639
We're going to do a little true
crime theater for you. We have emails

592
00:43:28.679 --> 00:43:32.440
between David and Heather. So,
David and Quinton, they're both football coaches.

593
00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:37.400
They shared the same office, right, and Heather, in my opinion,

594
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:38.719
it's not even my opinion, it's
a fact, she was pitting the

595
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:43.159
two guys against each other, right, She was kind of stringing them both

596
00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:46.239
along. So we're going to read
some of the emails between David and Heather.

597
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:51.639
I will be playing the part of
David. Oh, okay, So

598
00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:57.039
these two emailed each other. Text
messaging wasn't a thing, So you emailed

599
00:43:57.079 --> 00:44:00.440
back and forth, and sometimes your
emails were just you know, in the

600
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:04.079
form of a text. Right,
this first one is referring to Quinton.

601
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:07.719
Heather typed, I don't know what
to do about the other situation. I

602
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:12.880
don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
If you need to talk more, let

603
00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:15.920
me know. I can always make
time. If you want me to talk

604
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:17.679
to Quinton, let me know.
I can make it so he doesn't know

605
00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:22.039
you have been telling me what he
has been saying. I can tell him

606
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:23.760
that I am seeing you away from
school, and I think he will back

607
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:28.719
off. It's up to you.
All I am interested in is you being

608
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:31.360
happy, have a great day,
and get those papers graded so the kids

609
00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:36.920
can have some candy. Where's my
piece? D I hope you're talking about

610
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:42.039
a piece of candy? Five exclamation
points, smiley face. Let me think

611
00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:45.800
about the rest. Okay, the
next day, Heather typed, I just

612
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:50.400
need to talk to you alone.
Smiley face. I'm just so worried about

613
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:54.519
my reputation. How do you feel
about me talking to Quinton? Be honest,

614
00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:58.920
I don't have a problem with you
talking to him at all. If

615
00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:01.119
it went past that, it would
bother me. Does that sound bad.

616
00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:06.880
Remember what is important is that you
are happy. No, it doesn't sound

617
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:09.880
bad. Would you be interested in
me if Q weren't. I don't mean

618
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:14.280
to sound mean. I'm just worried
about your thoughts of me. I don't

619
00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:17.400
want you to think I'm available to
anyone. I really like being around you.

620
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:22.199
As bad as this sounds, I
enjoy emailing Quinton. You two just

621
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:27.199
happen to be married, and that
makes everything so difficult. I just don't

622
00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:30.159
want to have to choose between either
one of your friendships. I told you

623
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:34.960
the most important thing to me is
our friendship. I wasn't kidding. I

624
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:38.199
was interested in you way before Quinton
was. That has absolutely nothing to do

625
00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:43.199
with my feelings toward you. What
goes in email makes no difference to me.

626
00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:45.920
You shouldn't have to stop doing that
No matter what. I would be

627
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:50.719
happy to discuss my thoughts about you
anytime. You shouldn't have to choose.

628
00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:54.639
Are you interested in being with Quinton? Be honest, I am just all

629
00:45:54.719 --> 00:45:59.239
caps talking to him. I just
don't want to be the bad guy in

630
00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:05.400
this. On what exact day did
you become interested? Are you and Quinton

631
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:08.800
in the same room We're on opposite
sides of the room. He can't see

632
00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:13.440
me. The minute I was interested
in you was the first day of school.

633
00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:15.519
At that point, I didn't even
know you. If it makes any

634
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:20.000
difference, my thoughts of you are
great, and I am totally sure that

635
00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:22.719
you are not open to just everyone. I totally enjoy being with you,

636
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:28.360
whether it is out or just talking. Okay, you got out of that

637
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:32.320
one, smiley face. So at
the same time, Heather is emailing David

638
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:37.159
and Quinton. Okay, she says, you are all too cute. I

639
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:39.199
am having fun talking to you.
I'm glad I can do such a good

640
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:44.119
service for him. Well, I
gotta go and work. Really not by

641
00:46:44.199 --> 00:46:46.159
choice. I really have to go
check on my kids and actually do some

642
00:46:46.239 --> 00:46:51.000
grades. You made my day better. I'm looking forward to tomorrow. Have

643
00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:55.079
a great night. Bye, see
you later, smiley face. The next

644
00:46:55.159 --> 00:47:00.559
day, Quinton is in such a
great mood judging from his email, and

645
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:05.000
I just think I don't have anything
to do with that. He emailed me

646
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:07.960
first, smiley face, So how
are you feeling? And yes, you

647
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:12.360
had something to do with it.
Q is in an excellent mood, but

648
00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:15.800
I can't take the credit. I
feel pretty good. Are you still going

649
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:20.000
out. At least we can talk
with million people around. I don't even

650
00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:23.440
have anything important to talk about.
Just can't ever speak to you at school.

651
00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:27.920
Quinton seemed to be in a good
mood when I talked to him earlier.

652
00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:30.239
I'm doing great. I'd love to
come over later tonight if that's okay

653
00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:36.280
with you. Cool. I'm talking
with Quinton right now too. At least

654
00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:38.599
you guys aren't side by side.
He said it is hot in his room.

655
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:44.280
Wonder what he means by that five
question marks smiley face. You know

656
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:46.719
exactly what that meant. I'm just
teasing. You. Don't have to get

657
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:52.159
mad at me, sad face.
Just remember that's all he gets is email.

658
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:55.639
I didn't want it to sound mean. I don't care about that.

659
00:47:55.920 --> 00:48:00.599
Don't send that on happy face.
It doesn't fit for smiley faces. How

660
00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:06.559
is that? That's my girl?
Much better? That's a pretty strange relationship,

661
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:09.119
right, yeah, I'll say so. It's like they're both they're both

662
00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:14.840
married, and then there's I don't
know what shape that is. So there's

663
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:20.360
five people. It's like a yeah, yeah, I love Pentangle. Yeah.

664
00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:22.239
Well, I feel a little nauseous
after reading that, and I don't

665
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:25.559
think it's from the Beaver Nuggets.
I think it was just from having to

666
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:29.320
read that, So thank you for
that. Well, I hope it made

667
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:30.639
sense to people. And I just
wanted to portray, you know, this

668
00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:36.119
just this weird relationship, and Heather
is definitely playing both of these guys.

669
00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:38.880
We don't have the relation. I'm
sorry. The emails between she and Quinton.

670
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:43.760
David and Quinton are both in the
same room too, and they're both

671
00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:49.719
emailing her just very very strange and
awkward. I'm sure David probably wanted to

672
00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:52.719
pummel Quinton, being the alpha male
that he is, but he had to

673
00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:57.519
keep it together or Heather probably would
have been like, uh, you know,

674
00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:02.440
turn off to her. Well maybe
not. For Christmas, David gifted

675
00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:07.199
Heather an expensive gold necklace. Their
relationship appeared to be getting more serious.

676
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:12.840
Guess what David bought Belinda for Christmas. I'm going to either say a football

677
00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:21.320
or nothing. Nothing, Okay.
Belinda and Brenda's thirtieth birthday was on December

678
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:25.559
thirtieth, so their golden birthday.
They planned to spend it together. Brenda

679
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:30.880
came to Katie for a five day
visit. She immediately sensed major tension in

680
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:35.760
the house between her sister and her
husband. She was furious when David told

681
00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:38.599
Belinda she had a big butt,
and he kept repeating it the whole weekend

682
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:43.039
that she was there. What a
guy. She was disgusted by her brother

683
00:49:43.079 --> 00:49:45.920
in law's passive, aggressive attitude towards
her sister. On her birthday, David

684
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:50.440
again didn't have a gift for her. He announced, and you know,

685
00:49:50.679 --> 00:49:53.960
so it's her golden birthday. Yeah, it's her thirtieth birthday. She's very

686
00:49:53.960 --> 00:50:00.599
pregnant. I'm yeah, not that
gifts mean everything, but yeah, but

687
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:04.960
the little token of you know,
at least showing someone you appreciate that,

688
00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:07.480
right. And he announced that he
would be going on a hunting trip the

689
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:12.519
next day and be gone for two
days, even though Belinda's obstetrician had warned

690
00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:15.119
him that the baby might make an
early appearance. Why And it's also,

691
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:16.960
you know, so it's New Year's
even and he's like, yeah, I'm

692
00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:22.599
headed out. I know you're going
to be shocked. But David didn't go

693
00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:25.119
hunting. I am shocked. He
headed to Heather's townhouse, where she was

694
00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:29.679
having a party. Heather overdid it, and she didn't even make it to

695
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:34.000
midnight. And David didn't even call
to check up on Belinda the whole time

696
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:37.519
that he was there. On New
Year's Day, Belinda drove Brenda to the

697
00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:42.599
airport. The sisters hugged goodbye.
Brenda loved her sister deeply. She was

698
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:46.400
her twin and could feel her complete
exhaustion and anxiety over the future of her

699
00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:52.400
marriage and her babies. Brenda couldn't
shake the feeling that something was horribly wrong

700
00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:55.320
and that she might never see her
sister again, and sadly, she was

701
00:50:55.400 --> 00:51:00.559
right. A few days later,
David and Belinda celebrated their seventh wedding anniversary.

702
00:51:01.119 --> 00:51:05.119
I wonder what he got her for
her anniversary. I bet she got

703
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:08.519
like an eight carrot diamond ring or
something. I bet she got nothing.

704
00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:15.119
Belinda was putting the finishing touches on
the nursery. She'd asked David several times

705
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:17.280
to install some shelves in the closet, but he'd failed to get the job

706
00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:22.159
done, so she decided to do
it herself. The morning of January eleventh,

707
00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:27.639
nineteen ninety nine, was hectic as
Belinda and David hurried to get themselves

708
00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:30.480
and Evan ready for the day.
Evan was sick with a low grade fever,

709
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:35.480
but Belinda was trying to save Oliver
sick days until after the baby arrived,

710
00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:39.280
so she gave him some motron and
took him to preschool. Maureen called

711
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:43.920
and told Belinda to come over after
school and have some homemade soup she was

712
00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:46.599
cooking that day so she wouldn't have
to cook. Marine is her mother in

713
00:51:46.639 --> 00:51:51.079
law in case she forgot and how
old is Evan at this point? Evan

714
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:54.480
is three? Okay. When Belinda
dropped Evan off at school, she told

715
00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:58.840
his teacher that if his fever returned
to call her and let her know.

716
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:02.559
Agreed he would pick up Evan early
if needed, so she could work the

717
00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:07.400
whole school day. Sure enough,
Evan's fever returned and David was nowhere to

718
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:13.000
be found. Belinda left school around
noon and said she'd return after David got

719
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:15.159
home to take care of Evan.
She had a meeting with a parent at

720
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:21.320
two pm, and she promised she
would be back. Belinda tried David five

721
00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:24.239
more times on his cell phone to
no avail. She picked Evan up and

722
00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:28.880
took him home and put him in
bed. David came home to take care

723
00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:32.599
of Evan. Belinda returned to school
around one. She finished her parent meeting

724
00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:37.840
and left school around three twenty.
Several people noted that she seemed exasperated and

725
00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:42.920
in a hurry to get home.
Before heading home, Belinda stopped at her

726
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:45.760
in law's house to pick up the
homemade soup from Maureen. It was good

727
00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:50.639
timing with Evan being sick. Her
father in law brought the soup out to

728
00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:53.880
her car. At three point thirty
two, Belinda called David and said she

729
00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:59.119
was on her way home. Later, he estimated that she returned home at

730
00:52:59.159 --> 00:53:02.760
three forty five. She had plans
to play Bunco later that evening with friends

731
00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:07.679
for their monthly game, and she
still planned on attending. At four thirty

732
00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:12.840
eight, Brenda tried calling Belinda's home
phone to tell her her grandfather had an

733
00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:16.199
accident and her parents were taking him
to the hospital, but she didn't answer.

734
00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:21.880
Later, Brenda would say she'd had
an impending feeling of doom all day.

735
00:53:22.119 --> 00:53:25.519
David's father called at about five point
fifteen to check on Evan, but

736
00:53:25.719 --> 00:53:30.760
also got the answering machine. At
five twenty five, a neighbor walked by

737
00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:36.119
and noticed David pulling into the garage
in his blue truck. She thought she

738
00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:38.079
saw a small child in the front
seat with him, and then the garage

739
00:53:38.119 --> 00:53:44.039
door closed. Moments after returning home, David ran to his neighbor, Mike

740
00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:47.320
Ruggiero's house. He pounded on the
door with Evan in his arms. He

741
00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:52.599
flung his son at Mike and said, quote, someone's broken into my house.

742
00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:55.920
Take Evan unquote, and then he
ran off. Mike handed Evan over

743
00:53:55.960 --> 00:54:00.960
to his wife and told her to
call nine one one and David to see

744
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:05.639
if he could offer assistance. Mike
saw David walk through his backyard and close

745
00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:08.360
the gate behind him. The temple's
vicious dog, Shaka, was in the

746
00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:13.719
backyard, so Mike didn't open the
gate. He noted the shattered glass on

747
00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:16.079
the back door. It did look
as if a break in had occurred.

748
00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:23.880
David called nine one one at five
thirty six pm, Paris County. I

749
00:54:24.280 --> 00:54:30.320
believe our ambulance. Somebody's broken into
my mind and my wife stay on the

750
00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:32.719
life of the ambulance. Sir,
we have a shooting victim. Go ahead

751
00:54:32.760 --> 00:54:36.440
her. I just walked in.
My wife. I believe he's been shot.

752
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:38.119
It's got blood. Every word,
okay, sir? Is she breathing?

753
00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:42.840
Her brain is on the floor.
I think she's already diod she's eight

754
00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:45.800
much brain Okay, Sting, just
stay on the phone with me, Okay,

755
00:54:47.239 --> 00:54:50.440
sorry. Is there any way that
you can kneel down next to her

756
00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:58.480
and see if she is breathing?
Sir? Sure did? Okay, let

757
00:54:58.519 --> 00:55:01.159
me get them over there. Okay, can check her out. When was

758
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:07.280
the last time you saw her.
It's been shovel several hours? Yes,

759
00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:09.760
you say half of her brain is
on the floor. She's got bought over

760
00:55:09.840 --> 00:55:15.039
the port of second because she's done
in the corner. Okay, she's eight

761
00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:19.280
months. Have you felt for her
to have a pulse, yes, she

762
00:55:19.400 --> 00:55:22.400
doesn't have We got a baby,
though, right right, okay, okay,

763
00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:25.960
but I don't have to do CPR, yes, okay, I want

764
00:55:25.960 --> 00:55:30.039
you to do CPR for that baby. Okay, okay, yes, let's

765
00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:34.400
do. Are you doing CPR for
me? She's gone? Okay, well

766
00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:39.039
let's see if we cheat her.
Okay for the baby. Is there any

767
00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:44.199
way that you can do this?
This is just no way. She's got

768
00:55:44.199 --> 00:55:47.440
her brain and just bloody, just
covered on the floor. I got a

769
00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:52.159
policeman that's pulled up. I got
an ambulance and a paramedic that's getting ready

770
00:55:52.199 --> 00:55:57.880
to come into her. Okay,
that's hard to listen to. That wasn't

771
00:55:58.800 --> 00:56:01.599
It seems very emotional to me.
I don't know if it was contrived tears

772
00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:05.119
or not. Yeah, well,
and just disturbing hearing you know, the

773
00:56:05.480 --> 00:56:10.039
detail about her condition. The frustrating
part of that call for me is that

774
00:56:10.159 --> 00:56:15.280
if he even if Belinda wasn't alive
and he knew that she was dead because

775
00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:19.320
I don't want to be graphic,
but her brain matter was out of perhad

776
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:23.360
his baby girl was still inside of
Belinda, so he could still have performed

777
00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:29.119
CPR and saved the baby. Yeah, exactly. I thought the operator was

778
00:56:29.159 --> 00:56:31.800
really that was really she did a
wonderful job. Smart of her, Yeah,

779
00:56:31.880 --> 00:56:36.840
to go there really quickly, and
yet he just didn't seem interested.

780
00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:40.199
I think that's a good Yeah,
like he like, of course it would

781
00:56:40.199 --> 00:56:47.079
be you know, disturbing and emotional
and gross, but save your baby,

782
00:56:47.119 --> 00:56:52.840
your baby and the baby at that
point, she was I think three three

783
00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:57.400
weeks to her birthday, and she
would have been able to survive outside of

784
00:56:57.400 --> 00:57:00.760
the womb. So that's the hard
part from me in that situation. And

785
00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:05.679
he said he had been gone for
several hours but he was actually I think

786
00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:08.840
he was gone less than two hours, so he would have no idea how

787
00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:14.199
long ago that she'd been shot.
He said that he checked for a pulse

788
00:57:14.239 --> 00:57:19.039
and shaken Belinda, but there was
no blood on his clothing or his hands.

789
00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:23.360
Police arrived at the scene at five
forty nine pm. After securing the

790
00:57:23.440 --> 00:57:29.360
dog, David told them his wife
was dead, and I think we're going

791
00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:31.599
to talk about the dog in the
next episode. But the dog is known

792
00:57:31.639 --> 00:57:37.599
to be vicious and people like anytime
anyone was in the house, they'd be

793
00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:38.719
like, can you please put your
dog away? The dog is scarying me.

794
00:57:39.960 --> 00:57:44.639
EMTs arrived moments later, and David
led them to Belinda. She was

795
00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:46.800
face down in the closet of the
primary bedroom with a bullet through the back

796
00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:52.079
of her head that shattered her skull
and destroyed her face, her brain matter

797
00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:55.400
oozing from her skull. She was
fully clothed and even wearing her shoes.

798
00:57:57.239 --> 00:58:00.519
Her broken glasses were found near her
body. Only wore her glasses when she

799
00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:05.000
was driving and always took her shoes
off when she came in the door.

800
00:58:05.920 --> 00:58:07.920
And if she was going to go
laid down, she would have taken her

801
00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:13.880
shoes off. She was very pregnant
and her few were swollen, so as

802
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:15.639
are like, the first thing you're
going to do is a pregnant woman is

803
00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:21.519
remove your shoes. Her congealed blood
signaled to the amts that she had been

804
00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:24.920
dead for at least a half an
hour and there was no use attempting CPR

805
00:58:25.000 --> 00:58:30.119
and Belinda, she and baby Aaron
were both gone. David claimed he'd returned

806
00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:35.199
home with Evan after running errands and
going to the park. Remember, Evan

807
00:58:35.679 --> 00:58:39.360
was sick and he'd come home early
from school and there wasn't a car seat

808
00:58:39.360 --> 00:58:44.320
in David's truck. He found the
back door open with a broken window.

809
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He said he'd taken Evan to the
neighbors for his safety and then they returned.

810
00:58:47.519 --> 00:58:52.079
He returned home and found Belinda and
then called nine one one. That's

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what he told police what happened.
Not buying it, We do know that

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he left the house. We'll talk
about it on the next episode, but

813
00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:04.360
there is secure a surveillance footage of
him entering a couple of stores. Okay,

814
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so I'm sorry you guys, that's
what we're going to have to end

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up for it today. Don't hate
us, rest in peace. Belinda and

816
00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:19.440
Aaron just cutted by this story really
really sad. Does it remind you of

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00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:22.840
any other cases that we've done recently? I mean, definitely some parallels with

818
00:59:23.239 --> 00:59:28.679
Scott and Lacy Peterson. I know
we've talked about it before, but the

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leading cause of death for pregnant women
is murder by their partners, right,

820
00:59:34.719 --> 00:59:38.000
So it's a story that's all too
common. Unfortunately, it's so sad.

821
00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:43.199
Yeah, it's just hard to wrap
your head around, like how you could

822
00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:46.440
kill your spouse, but kill your
spouse that's pregnant with your baby, and

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00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:51.199
your baby is viable outside of the
womb at that time. I don't know

824
00:59:51.199 --> 00:59:54.119
how you are that cold hearted and
you do that. Yeah, but we're

825
00:59:54.119 --> 00:59:59.440
putting the cart before the horse.
We don't even know if David was the

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one who killed Belinda. I have
a feeling though. Yeah. Do you

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want to go on the Ohio Turnpike
and find the BUCkies nearest us? Yeah?

828
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I'll be back in six hours or
so. It's kind of impressive how

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much of this bag we duram that
episode. They're delicious, So if that

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01:00:16.519 --> 01:00:21.960
who was at it? JC?
Jacy? Thanks JC, Please rate,

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LMK podcast po box one one one
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838
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just looking at me. It's waiting
for you to jump in. That just

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occurred to be. That are the
name of the town we live in.

840
01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:05.519
Is the name of probably the most
famous fictional serial killer in the world.

841
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That is just dawning on your now. For a long time, I never

842
01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:13.519
really thought of it. I don't
think there's any serial killers in our town.

843
01:01:13.639 --> 01:01:15.320
Oh you never know, you never
know. I don't feel like I'm

844
01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:20.159
tempting Faid, Yeah exactly. Yeah. Well, thank you everyone for listening,

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and as always, don't kill your
husband, don't kill your wife.

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And Jody Hildebrandt was also sentenced