Deadly Love Triangle: Moriah Wilson, Colin Strickland and Kaitlin Armstrong

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Hi, I'm Tina, and I'm
rich. And if there's one thing we've

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learned in over twenty years of marriage, it's that some days you'll feel like

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killing your wife, and some days
you'll feel like killing your husband. Welcome

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to love, Mary kill Hey Rich. How are you? I'm pretty good?

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How are you? I'm pretty a
little stressed, but I'm pretty good.

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I think we're both a little stressed
right now. I think of you.

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Especially if you ask any woman this
time of year how she's feeling,

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she's gonna be like, I'm great, great, fabulous. Yeah, there's

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a lot to do. Yeah,
there's a lot to do. I'm getting

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it done. You sure are.
How do you eat an elephant one bite

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at a time? Exactly? Well, you probably really should eat an elephants.

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Why would anyone eat an elephant?
Ridiculous? Well, if you're really

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hungry. How are your Christmas preparations
going? They're going great? You were

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really You put some lights out on
the house. I did, not on

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the house, not on the tree, on the rounding the house. Our

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house is kind of tall and peaky, and I wouldn't want you to put

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lights on the house. It would
be really hazardous, probably, but our

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trees are getting bigger, and so
it's taking more and more lights every year

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if I put them on our trees. So yeah, our house is new

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words. We bought it when it
was what three or four years old,

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and now it's I don't know,
six seven years old, and so yeah,

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the trees are growing. Well.
We have all these pine trees that

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look just like Christmas trees. So
I like to decorate them. But it's

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taken more and more lights. I
don't think I left you any for you

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say they really, God, there's
no lights. We need to keep a

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separate man. Speaking of Christmas made
you, it's something I made you a

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cookie, you made me a cook. I decided that for the episodes for

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the rest of the year, we
should make Christmas Christmas cookie. Okay,

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so this is a wait hold on. I mean, look, I've made

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them before, but you probably don't
remember. I do you do's? I

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never forget a cookie. What's it
called? Oh I don't know what it's

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called. I remember the taste of
it, and the Christmas Swig cookie and

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Swig cookies. I think they're cute. They're just you take them. They're

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circular, and you take a glass
and you press it down a glass that

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has sugar on it, and you
press it down and so it kind of

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spreads out the cookie, and it
kind of looks a little rustic. Yeah,

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and then you put like that,
I'm touching your cookie before I give

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it to you. And this one
has you're supposed to put Andy's, you

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know, like Andy's mints, but
they're like they have baking chips and I

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can never find them. So I
got the Andy's Peppermint crunch candies and I

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just cut them up. Or you
could also just use a crushed up candy

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cane. But it's like a short
bread cookie that has this peppermint crunch in

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it, and then there's pink frosting
on the top. Can you hear me

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salvating? I mean, I made
it this morning, and I don't know.

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I think it's pretty good. I
keep touching it, but it's a

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little little over because I only made
it wildly. You only made one.

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I mean, I made a whole
badge, but I only made one for

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you to try because I'm trying not
to eat as many cookies. So all

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right, let's take a quick break
and you can sink your teeth into this

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pink cookie. Alrighty, Well,
as always, you are the cookie master.

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Really you like them? Yeah,
what's not to like? So I

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should explain really quick, and I'm
going to get this wrong. Our Utah

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friends are gonna are going to correct
me. But I think Swig cookies are

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a Utah thing. And there was
a gas station or some sort of mart

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that was like you could get great
like they had a great drink selection mm

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hmm. The name, so the
name Swig came from that. And then

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they had these cookies that I don't
know if the founder of the store or

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someone made these cookies. So that's
where this Swig cookie comes from. Nice.

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I like the peppermint flavor. It's
very uh, it's very Christmas y.

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Yeah, they're good. They're good. There. I like a frosting,

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a frosted cookie. I forgot to
adorn the top with more of the

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power. That's okay. Well,
before you get into today's case, a

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quick update. You posted about it
on Instagram today, But quick update on

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the case. We covered gosh in
June several months ago. Tex MacIvor he

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was convicted of killing his wife Diane. If you remember it was kind of

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remember it. Yeah, they were
in the car together. Yeah. She

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was in the front, he was
in the back, and he was like,

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oh, the gun just went off. It was crazy. He fell

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asleep in the back seat of the
yr. He was holding the gun because

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he thought it was a bad neighborhood
they were driving through. Anyway, he

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got convicted, and I think at
the end of the case I mentioned that

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he had appealed it to the Supreme
Court and they actually came back and said,

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yeah, you the jury should have
been given the option of involuntary manslaughter,

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which they weren't given that option,
and so he has a retrial.

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He was still in prison because he
had he was convicted of other charges like,

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uh, subordination of perjury, which
he meant he was like talking to

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the witness is trying to get them
to say what he wanted them to say.

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So he was still in jail,
but the trial actually started today,

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but then it got postponed again.
So yeah, I posted that, and

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you told me, oh, it's
postponed again. Yeah, I just saw

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an article. It was like they
were there was a dispute over what evidence

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would be allowed and postponed indefinitely.
Yeah. Yeah, so who knows when

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it'll be you know, the wheels
of justice. That's crazy. What remind

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me what he was convicted of and
how long his sentence was. He was

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convicted of felony murder, which carries
a life sentence, So he was yeah,

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I mean he's like eighty years old. Now I think, oh,

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is he really? Yeah? Well, I don't know if that makes sense

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to have him stand for another trial. If yeah, I mean, who

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knows what would be the sentence for
involuntary manslaughter. I really don't know.

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I mean, but if he has
another trial, he could be found not

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guilty even so that's true. Yeah, I'm sure for him it's worth it.

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So we had talked about this a
little bit, you and I personally,

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but we haven't talked about it the
podcast. We're trying to keep our

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openings as short and concise as possible
because the opening banter is a little polarizing

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between people, and so we had
decided maybe five minutes of just you know,

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the snack time and just greeting is
probably good. I know, some

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people don't like banter at all,
and some people you know, could listen

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to it longer, really, I
know, So we just decided that five

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minutes is a happy medium. Also, I think I see an Amazon truck

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pulling up and a there's also a
Prime. Oh wait, there's a there's

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two Amazon trucks. Are you kidding? Okay, so this I just they're

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going to run into each other.
Are they both at our house? Yeah,

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they're both ones backing up. Maybe
one broke down or something. Oh

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has it been? I don't know. Okay, I just wanted to mention

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really quick. If you have an
Alexa, and I think even if you

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don't have an Alexa, if you
say Alexa, think my Amazon driver,

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they get a tip every time.
Is that true? It is not like

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I thought maybe that was like an
urban legend thing that people. Oh no,

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if you I'll show you later.
Yeah, just say to Alexa,

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Alexa tip or think my driver.
And then I think that they have like

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they have five million reserved or something
like that. So maybe once that money

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is gone they won't do it anymore. But I try to do it.

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Well, yes, I have to
do it a few times, and then

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we have a little like a snack
bin because we we do kind of show

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your appreciation for those drivers that they
work really hard. Her mail lady,

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I hope she doesn't listen to our
podcast. But we have a big mailbox

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and she jams that. She doesn't
care how big of a package it is.

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She's not going to get it in
that mail she dies and we're kind

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of laxed about checking the mailbox.
And anyway, today she can't come up

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at the house. Oh did she
really? Yeah, and she's she can

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get a little grumpy. And she
took a snack, so I was like,

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Okay, well she had a snack, that's nice. I was gonna

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put some fresh bak he's on there. But I thought people would be like,

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are you crazy? But I really
do appreciate the delivery drivers. Yeah,

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they work really hard, and I
really do appreciate. I appreciate everyone.

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Well, we're in eight minutes,
so we better get into your case.

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Sorry about that. Well you can
just when you add it, you

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can just speed us up. Sure
you can make it like two minutes.

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So today I have a recent newscase
for you, the story of Caitlin Armstrong,

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Colin Strickland, and Anna Mariah Wilson. Okay you ready, I'm ready.

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Anna Mariah Moe Wilson was shot multiple
times and died in Austin, Texas

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on May eleventh, twenty twenty two, just a week before her twenty sixth

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birthday, while staying at her friend
Caitlin Cash's apartment. Mo Is, she

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liked to be called, was a
professional cyclist who competed in a Newish sport

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called gravel racing. Have you heard
of gravel racing before? I haven't,

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but it sounds kind of dangerous.
She came to Austin for the May fourteenth

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Gravel Locos Bike Race, a one
hundred and fifties seven mile race across Texas

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called the super Bowl of Gravel.
She was strongly favored to win. Her

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star was rapidly rising. Caitlyn returned
home just before ten pm to find Moe

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lying unconscious in her small bathroom.
It took her a moment to get her

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bearings. Her first thought was that
Moe had fallen asleep or was stretching,

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but then she realized her friend was
covered in blood. Caitlyn ran to get

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her phone and called nine one one
at nine fifty six pm. She frantically

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performed CPR on mo while she waited
for help. EMTs arrived moments later,

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but they weren't able to save her. She'd likely been dead for as long

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as an hour. Moe Wilson,
full of promise and untapped dreams, was

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pronounced dead at ten ten pm after
resuscitation efforts failed. Responding officers instantly knew

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Moe's death was not a random act
and quickly ruled it a homicide. Within

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hours, they had a person of
interest in their sights. I should mention

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there's two Caitlins in this story.
Caitlyn with the Sea Caitlyn cash is Moe's

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good friend who is she's staying And
Caitlyn with a Ka Caitlyn Armstrong, who

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we will be introduced to shortly.
Anna Mariah Wilson was born on May eighteenth,

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nineteen ninety six, and Lyttleton,
New Hampshire, to Eric and Karen

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Wilson. Both of Moe's parents had
been members of the US national ski team.

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Moe's aunt, Laura Wilson, competed
in two Olympic Games in nineteen ninety

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four and nineteen ninety eight in cross
country skiing. Moe grew up in rural

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Vermont. She loved spending time outdoors
on all seasons in any weather. When

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she wasn't skiing in the snow,
she would bike the Kingdom Trails near her

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home to say Moe was the athletic
would be a vast understatement. From a

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young age, she was a passionate
and accomplished alpine skier, earning a national

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ranking as a junior skier. She
plays third in the twenty thirteen US Junior

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National Championship downhill event and impressive.
She's an amazing young woman. Moe attended

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high school at Burke Mountain, Aca, Me where she earned four varsity letters

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for alpine skiing. Her father was
the ski coach, two in cycling and

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three in soccer, and she was
also the soccer team captain. Mo attended

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Dartmouth College in Hanover, New Hampshire, and received a Bachelor of Arts and

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Engineering in twenty nineteen. While attending
Dartmouth, Moe was on the soccer team

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and the alpine ski team, fulfilling
her childhood dream. After graduating college,

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Mo moved to San Francisco and worked
as a demand planner for California based bicycle

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manufacturer Specialized. She decided to put
her skis down and began to focus on

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a career as an elite bike racer, racing both gravel and mountain bikes.

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She quickly rose to the top of
the rankings and both disciplines of the sport.

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Weeks before her death, she left
her job to focus on her cycling

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career full time. Here's an excerpt
for Moe's obituary. Mo loved cooking,

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writing, and traveling. She loved
Italy Taco Tuesdays, maple creams, and

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playing Settlers of Katan with her friends. Most importantly, Mariah's recent dream was

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to channel her success and ways to
give back and inspire others around the world.

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Moe recently chose to call Vermont her
home again, with a vision to

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create a local community space in Eastburg, Vermont, where writers could gather throughout

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the day, feel welcome, share
a good cup of coffee, and a

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bite of locally sourced food. After
her death, Moe's family issued the following

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statement. We thank everyone for their
expression of love and support for us in

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this difficult time. While the tragic
loss of Mariah is unfathomable, at the

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same time, we own everyone to
join us in celebrating her life accomplishment and

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love for others. Always pushing tirelessly
to reach her goals. We knew she

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was pursuing that which she loved.
We will miss her terribly and know that

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all mourn her with us. We
know that Mariah would want the event to

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carry on. I think they meant
like an upcoming by Grace for compatriots to

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test their limits. She would have
been alongside her friends on the race course.

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We hope everyone feels her passion and
supports they chase their own dreams.

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Her spirit will be there with you
while training and on every race day.

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Please do not reach out for interviews
or comments for the rest of May.

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We are planning a celebration of life
in June and will be forthcoming with details

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soon. It's like a great person. And you said she was only twenty

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six, right, She was twenty
five for birthday. She died exactly a

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week before her birthday. Here's a
clip of Moe talking about her childhood.

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Well, I grew up in Vermont. A big part of my upbringing was

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just like I was on sea before
I could basically walk. And then when

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I was like seven or something,
I think my dad asked me and my

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brother if we wanted to race,
and we were like, yeah, of

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course, Like we love skiing,
like it just seems so natural. So

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we started racing. When I graduated
from college in twenty nineteen, I bought

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a gravel bike that summer move to
San Francisco, and just like immediately started

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to fall in love with racing.
The transition from skiing to racing bikes just

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felt really natural. I've known for
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Growing up. I all I wanted
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gear but on a deeper level,
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I just want to be like a
professional athletes. Feel like I'm being really

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true to myself and this little girl
inside of me that just that's all that

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she dreamed about. She sounds pretty
great, she really does. Yeah,

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it's funny because I've known my whole
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I have had a passion for not
being an elite after life, I

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know to give it, a passion
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have so much respect for people who
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and in the dark and do theirs, you know, training, and it's

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yeah, it's amazing. It's very
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the family too that was sort of
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Right, Definitely, it sounds like
a lovely family. According to Bellownews,

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a website for all things cycling,
Moe was quote the winningness woman in the

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American off road scene. She won
ten races in twenty twenty two, and

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remember she died on May eleventh,
so the year was less than half over,

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including the Shasta Gravel Hugger and the
Rock Cobbler in California. Moe's last

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race, the one hundred and thirty
seven Belgian Waffle Ride, was held in

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San Diego a week before her death. Mo not only finished first, but

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she decimated her nearest competition by twenty
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the finish line twenty five that's amazing. That is amazing. I'm more curious

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though about the Belgian Waffle part of
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do you stop along the way and
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think these gravel racers, I'm going
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gravel racing in a little bit,
but I think they just it's kind of

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tongue in cheek. I think they
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a pretty fun sport. Moe was
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close nt racing community. Her loss
was deeply felt and sent chock waves through

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their community. The Mariah Wilson Foundation
was formed in her honor by her family

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and friends and has raised over one
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hopes to continue most legacy by helping
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through biking, skiing, and other
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discipline in the cycling world. As
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gravel roads. An article in The
New Yorker called gravel racing both a solo

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endurance sport and a party in the
mud. The same article compared the sport

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to a mullet business and the front
party in the back. Most races are

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between one hundred and fifty and two
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The bikes have chunky tires and bike
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a lot of the streamlined bikes that
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has gained popularity around the world.
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Usually on open gravel roads, double
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often with some stretches of paved road
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just laughing because some of these words, I'm I really don't know what they

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mean. Some courses are smooth,
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They're very muddy. A lot of
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lot of pictures of mo and other
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are just muddy, and I think
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gravel racing is known to be casual, fun and friendly. Gravel racing

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is not an Olympic sport. There
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BMX Freestyle, BMX racing, mountain
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In North America, where some of
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average speed can reach twenty miles per
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and yeah, it's crazy. One
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it's very welcoming and you don't have
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All levels are welcome at most races. Cool, you're going to take

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it up? Now? Did I
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Generally, the cycler's ride on quiet, remote roads among nature. Most gravel

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races are longer than mountain bike races. There are specialized gravel bikes, but

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a mountain bike or whatever bike you
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We do have a lot of gravel
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feel safer. I like riding a
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road. It really terrifies me.
And I've known so many people that have

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gotten hit by cars and stuff.
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the road, but maybe a gravel
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don't know that. We used to
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kind of drive pretty fast down there. Yeah, okay. So Mo flew

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into Austin in Texas on May tenth
to train and ACCLI May before the big

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race. On May fourteenth, Caitlyn
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the sea and drove them back to
her small apartment. Mos stayed with her

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friend to save a little money.
She awoke on May eleventh, with sore,

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tired muscles. As usual, she
stretched on yon before changing into her

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training gear. She had been training
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full time on her cycling career.
She had made great strides in recent months,

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skyrocketing to the top of the field. I didn't say this earlier,

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but she was so good, like
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and you know, she hadn't been
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She was able to beat a lot
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was just it would just have been
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be doing. Mo had made plans
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a fellow gravel rider, that afternoon. Kitln knew Colin and Mo had

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dated briefly. She wasn't a fan
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out of seeing Colin, but Mo
assured her that she had everything out of

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control. Caitlyn left the apartment before
Colin arrived. When she returned home later

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that night, just before ten pm, she noted with mild irritation that Moe's

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large bike bag was in her car
port, blocking her spot. She'd asked

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her to move it earlier, but
strangely, Moe's racing bike was missing,

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just the bag remained. Caitlyn walked
up the wooden stairs to her small apartment

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above her landlord's garage. She stripped
herself of her cell phone, restaurant leftovers,

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and other belongings before she walked to
the bathroom. She stopped abruptly.

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A scream rose in her throat when
she saw her front so full of life

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and promise just an hour before lying
in a pole of her blood. Caitlyn

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dropped to her knees and searched for
Moe's pulse. Not finding one, she

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ran to grab her phone and dialed
nine one one, then began chest compressions.

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So police arrived at Caitlyn's apartment after
the AMT's. While the amts were

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still attempting to revive mo they began
their investigation. They found several bullet casing

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surrounding her body, but no gun. Moe's expense of customized racing bike was

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found hidden in some bushes about seventy
feet from the garage where she had stored

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it earlier. Could Moe's killer have
been a rival who was jealous of her

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success and rocketing fame. A Tanya
Harding type incident. What do you think?

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I mean, it doesn't seem likely
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as people that are very uh,
you know, friendly and camaraderie. I

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guess there's a lot of camaraderie,
but I think the top racers like,

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you know, yeah, business in
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So the main competitors I think were
pretty you know, more aggressive. I

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think everyone was friendly, but everyone's
people want to win. Yeah. Yeah,

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Caitlin, we're still talking about.
Caitlin with the Sea told investigators that

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she used an electronic lock on her
door and she'd given a unique code to

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Moe to use during her stay.
She was able to pinpoint for investigators exactly

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when Moe came and went. Mo
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pm when Colin picked her up on
his BMW motorcycle. They went to the

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deep Eddy Pool in Austin and then
to Pull Burger for dinner and a couple

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of drinks. Despite Mo telling Caitlin
they robbed the others at the dinner and

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was just her and Colin. There
was video of them leaving the restaurant at

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eight sixteen pm. Moe returned to
the apartment at eight thirty six pm after

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Colin dropped her off. He did
not walk her to the door or go

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inside because Colin was not a gentleman. I'm not a fan of Collins.

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Mo did not lock the door after
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a surveillance cameras, but her neighbors
did, and the camera footage confirmed Moe's

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eight thirty six arrival. But at
eight thirty seven PM, a dark suv

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was seen pulling up to the residence. There was a bike rack mounted onto

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a trailer hitch on the rear of
the suv and a luggage rack on the

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top. The vehicle also had distinctive
chrome details. David Harris, the owner

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of the apartment Kaitlyn rented, told
he was in his garage and heard someone

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running down the apartment stairs between eight
thirty and nine thirty on May eleventh.

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That's quite a span of time,
but he didn't report hearing gunshots. He

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thought he saw someone leave the scene
on a bike quickly through the alleyway.

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And remember, Moe's bike was found
in some nearby bushes. I wonder if

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someone could have just you know how
far away where the bushes is seventy feet

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But he said he thought he thought
he saw someone on a bike. So

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we know that Moe was killed somewhere
between eight thirty six and about nine p

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fifty when Caitlin returned. Okay,
it's weird that he didn't hear any gunshots.

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It is weird. The next day, May twelfth, twenty twenty two,

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investigators paid a visit to Colin Strickland, who was the last person to

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see Moo alive. He also lived
in Austin, Texas. There were three

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vehicles in his driveway, a two
thousand and two BMW motorcycle, a nineteen

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ninety eight Mercedes, and a twenty
twelve Jeep Grand Cherokee. Jeep was black

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and had a bike rack luggadrack chrome
jinctive chrome trim. Colin Strickland was born

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on November seventeenth, nineteen eighty six, in Johnson City, Texas, about

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fifty miles from Austin. He grew
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was a talented runner in high school. He attended the University of Texas and

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earned a degree in environmental science.
He worked for a local environmental consultant until

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he began cycling professionally in his late
twenties. His first big win was at

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the AlleyCat Race at the twenty ten
North American Handmade Bike Show. According to

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heavy dot com. In twenty fourteen, Colin won the Texas Cup, Overall

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Road Criteria Championship and the season finale
of the Red Hook Criteria in Milan,

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Italy. In twenty sixteen, he
made the Red Hook Series his focus and

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completed an unprecedented four race winning streak
with victories at Brooklyn, London and Barcelona.

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Gained several sponsors, among them Bred
Bull. To be sponsored by Red

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Bull as a big deal as they
only sponsor elite athletes like Moe. Colin

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switched to gravel racing and won the
Unbound Gravel Race in twenty nineteen and was

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the second place finisher at Gravel Worlds
last year. He was one of the

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biggest stars of the gravel racing world. He once estimate that he wrote how

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many miles a year? Do you
think? He wrote on his bike?

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Oh gosh, that means give me
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Okay, well no, I'm sure
you would write them eleven thousand miles a

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year, which was a lot of
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I'd drive my car honestly. Yeah. After the letdown of Lance Armstrong's doping

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scandal a decade earlier, Colin Strickland
became a local celebrity in Austin. At

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six feet two inches tall and one
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lean but muscular, confident and friendly
with a swagger to him. Despite being

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in a committed relationship, he'd loved
to talk conflirt with other women in person

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and online. Sometimes those dms can
be hard to resist. What did you

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say him form? Because it doesn't
sound good. It sounds like something in

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a committed relationship shouldn't be doing.
He wasn't known for his honesty or monogamy.

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To put it bluntly, he'd made
some enemies along the way. When

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people asked him about his relationship with
his girlfriend Caitlin, he'd downplay it and

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make it sound like a business relationship. The romans had fizzled out. Like

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a lot of athletes, his ego
might have been bigger than his talent,

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but being a sports star is about
marketing yourself, and Colin was pretty good

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at that. Here's a clip of
Colin talking about his favorite thing himself.

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My ideal scenario would always be to
get myself into a move that has the

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potential to make it to the line
with a fewer selection of writers. I'm

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not a post to sprinting, but
it's not my specialty. My name's Colin

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Stripling. I'm racing for a LLA
specialized for the Red Hook KRIT Series in

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twenty sixteen. I'm from Austin,
Texas. I've been racing the Red Hook

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crit Series on and off for approximately
five years. We had to be very

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conservative going into race. People would
be watching us, they would be waiting

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for the moment, so we had
to take advantage of the efforts other riders

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were putting in to soften the field
or string out the field catch some riders

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out of position. Okay, that
clip went on for a while, but

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I didn't really know what he was
talking about. On May twelve, twenty

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twenty two, police asked Colin about
the jeep in his driveway. He told

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them it belonged to his living girlfriend
of three years, Caitlin with a k

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Armstrong thirty four, no relation to
Lance. It was hers. He never

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drove it, He said. They
requested that he go to the police station

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for a formal interview. He complied
and was told he was free to leave

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as he chose any time. Colin
described Caitlin with a K as sweet and

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caring and not capable of murder.
She wasn't the jealous type, he said.

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He told police that he and Caitlyn
had briefly broken up the previous October

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for a few weeks, but they
had fully reconciled. During the time they

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were broken up, Colin met and
briefly dated Moe Wilson. He assured police

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that they had parted ways amicably and
remained good friends. He called Moe the

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best female cyclist in the US and
possibly the world. During his interview,

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it was obvious he respected her by
the way he talked about her. Colin

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claimed he was helping Moe gain new
sponsors. He described Caitlin unless glowing terms

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when he talked about her cycling career. He referred to her as a participant

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and not a competitor at races,
and said she held him back during training,

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so they trained separately. So Caitlin
with a K was also a cyclist,

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but not at the same elite level
that Colin and Mo were at.

407
00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:56.480
Correct, she was just an amateur, okay. And one other quick question

408
00:28:56.599 --> 00:29:00.400
for you too that I was thinking
about is when you said that Colin and

409
00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:03.839
Mo dated briefly, Like was it
like a week two weeks? Or like

410
00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:07.920
how you literally said I was a
week A week to two week, one

411
00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:11.680
to two weeks. Colin told police
he had purchased two guns in December twenty

412
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:17.279
twenty one, a Springfield Arms nine
millimeter pistol for himself and a sig Sour

413
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:22.640
nine millimeter pistol for Caitlin after she'd
been shaken up after a road rage incident.

414
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:26.960
Colin admitted to police that he hadn't
told Caitlin he was seeing Mo.

415
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:30.279
On the evening of May eleventh,
after he dropped Mo off, Colin parked

416
00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:36.319
in a nearby alleyway and texted Caitlin
Armstrong the following Hey are you out?

417
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:40.519
I went to drop some flowers off
for Allison at her son's house up north

418
00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:45.119
and my phone died heading home Unless
you have any other food suggestion? Okay,

419
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:51.480
so he meant pot. I think
he sent this like right after he

420
00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:55.799
dropped Mo off, Okay, and
the phone died. Excuse come on,

421
00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:59.160
I know so, I mean,
obviously he was lying for why do you

422
00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:03.160
think he was lying to He because
he's kind of a dog and he was

423
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:04.920
seeing in another woman. He didn't
want her to know about it, even

424
00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:07.640
though even if it was completely innocent, he didn't want her to know.

425
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:11.279
Correct. He returned home to the
house he shared with Caitlin at eight forty

426
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:15.920
three pm. He went to his
garage and worked on his racing bikes until

427
00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:19.200
nine twenty one, when he texted
Caitlyn again. She returned home around nine

428
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:23.920
point thirty. During Colin's interview at
the station, police carried out a search

429
00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:27.920
warrant on his house and seized the
two pistols, along with three phones,

430
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:32.799
one belonging to Colin and two to
Kaitlin, as well as her MacBook pro.

431
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:37.839
Colin willingly submitted to a DNA sample. He left the police station after

432
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:41.839
his whereabouts were confirmed by a traffic
camera during the time of Moe's murder.

433
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:48.240
He was not a serious suspect.
Colin Strickland's attorney released the following statement in

434
00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:53.119
his behalf to reporter Tony Pluwetski of
Austin American Statesman on May twentieth, twenty

435
00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:57.960
twenty two. I am reeling from
grieving Moe Wilson's death and from facts that

436
00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:03.640
have emerged during the investigation. I
cannot begin to imagine the pain felt by

437
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:07.160
Moe's family and her close friends.
There is no way to adequately express the

438
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:11.759
regret and torture I feel about my
proximity to this horrible crime. I am

439
00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:17.160
sorry, and I simply can't make
sense of this unfathomable tragedy. Although it

440
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:19.599
will be a matter of small consolation
to anyone that cared for Mo, I

441
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:23.640
want you to know that I have
cooperated fully with the investigators ever since I

442
00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:27.240
learned the terrible news, and I
will continue to do so until some form

443
00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:32.920
of justice is served. As a
point of clarification to points previously reported,

444
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:37.200
Mariah Wilson and I had a brief
romantic relationship from late October to early November

445
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:42.119
twenty twenty twenty one that spanned a
week or so while Wilson was visiting Austin,

446
00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:45.799
which I think is so weird that
he referred to as Wilson. At

447
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:49.920
the time, she and I had
both ended relationships. She returned to her

448
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:55.400
home in California, and about a
month later Caitlin Armstrong and I reconciled and

449
00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:59.680
resumed our relationship. Since then,
I have been seeing Moe at cycling events

450
00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:04.039
and old always in public settings.
We both competed in Bentonville, Arkansas,

451
00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:07.519
Stillwater, and Monterey, California.
We also met for our four hour training

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00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:14.559
ride in Santa Cruz after the Seattle
Classic in Monterey. After our brief relationship

453
00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:17.240
in October of twenty twenty one,
we were not in a romantic relationship,

454
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:22.920
only a platonic and professional one.
It was not my intention to pursue along

455
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:29.039
an auxiliary romantic relationship that would mislead
anyone. Mariah and I were both leaders

456
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:32.880
in this lonely niche sport of cycling, and I admired her greatly and considered

457
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:37.880
her a close friend. I am
deeply grieving her loss. Soon after Moe's

458
00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:43.440
death, Colin lost all of his
sponsors, quit his social media accounts,

459
00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:50.240
and withdrew from the racing circuit.
His now private Instagram bioreads former cyclist,

460
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:55.079
Oh that's surprising. Yeah, I
think it's possible he might get back to

461
00:32:55.160 --> 00:33:00.720
it someday. But even towards the
end of a ripe off Foremo's death,

462
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:02.680
I think his star had started to
dim a little bit, and he wasn't

463
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:07.359
training his hard, and I think
he lost a little bit of his zeal

464
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:17.759
for it. Yeah, let's take
a quick break. Welcome back. Do

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00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:22.440
you want to tell our listeners what
you just did? No, they're going

466
00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:25.400
to be disappointing you. He gave
me a cookie, I'm going to eat

467
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:29.759
it. I mean I said there
was one cookie. Oh, and you

468
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:31.200
ate the whole thing. And that's
a big cookie. And you didn't share

469
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:35.680
me even one bite. I know
you're trying not to eat sugar, not

470
00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:42.359
trying that hard. Okay, Back
to Caitlin and Colin and Mo. Born

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00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:45.359
on November twenty first, nineteen eighty
seven. Kaitlin Marie Armstrong grew up in

472
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:50.599
Lavonia, Michigan. Do you know
where that is? Of course I do,

473
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:54.480
About twenty miles from Detroit. She
attended Stevenson High School, where she

474
00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:59.960
competed in volleyball, basketball, and
track. She was quiet, but smart,

475
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:04.319
pretty unpopular. Her red hair,
which she wore curly or sometimes straight,

476
00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:08.079
won her the class award for best
Hair. Mine did not. No.

477
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:12.800
No, I'm glad that Kaitlyn looks
like she had her hair figured out.

478
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:19.320
We have like a lot of curly, unruly hair and if I figured

479
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:22.880
it out like a year ago.
After graduating in two thousand and five,

480
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:29.119
she attended Schoolcraft Community College and then
Eastern Michigan University, which is right down

481
00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:32.840
the road Eagles. Eastern Michigan and
University of Michigan are very close to each

482
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:37.159
other. Both of them are fine
schools. After college, Kaitlin traveled the

483
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:43.079
world to Bali and other exotic locations. Training as a yoga instructor. She

484
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:47.719
became an adept traveler. She eventually
settled in the Austin, Texas area and

485
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:52.559
worked as a mortgage broker, a
realtor, and a part time house flipper.

486
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:55.840
She met Colin and they moved in
together. She was good with finances

487
00:34:55.880 --> 00:35:01.840
and helped him start a business retrofitting
vintage trail pills called Wheelhouse Mobile. John

488
00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:07.000
c Riley bought a renovated nineteen fifty
six Spartan from Colin as his first sale.

489
00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:10.400
I love John c Riley, good
guy. I don't know why you

490
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:14.880
bought it from Colin. I guess
Colin was pretty good at this. I

491
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:16.039
wasn't, you know, not a
you know, I'm not a Colin fan,

492
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:19.880
but he was good at what he
did. He was known as a

493
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:24.320
tinkerer. Colin had recently given Caitlin
four hundred and fifty thousand dollars to invest

494
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:29.360
for him. Caitlyn was also a
bike enthusiast, but it was more of

495
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:32.519
a hobby for her. She tagged
along with Colin to races, and she

496
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:37.639
competed, but not seriously. She
was more of a party in the back

497
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:42.840
person okay. During Kaitlyn and Colin's
short breakup in the fall of twenty twenty

498
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:46.239
one, Colin and Moe began dating. They showed up to a party alongside

499
00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:51.480
their racing friends. Several women at
the party were good friends with Caitlyn and

500
00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:54.719
called her to let her know what
was going on. Caitlyn made an anonymous

501
00:35:54.719 --> 00:36:00.239
call that night to Moe and told
her to stay away from Colin. They

502
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:04.760
reconciled. Caitlyn was not happy that
Colin and Mo remade friends after their brief

503
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:08.400
relationship. In fact, she hated
it. She had gone through Colin's phone,

504
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:14.280
deleted Moe's number, and permanently blocked
it. Colin didn't realize that Mo

505
00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:17.320
would soon be in mortal danger and
simply just kept changing her name and his

506
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:23.119
phone to a different name and continued
their friendship, frequently deleting their text messages

507
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:30.400
so Caitlyn wouldn't see them. However, Caitlyn had access to Colin's iCloud account

508
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:35.599
and was able to see his location
and read his text messages on his iPad

509
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:40.039
or other devices. Boy, I
know I've said this before, but if

510
00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:45.320
you have to check your partner's messages
and look at his phone, you probably

511
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:51.800
shouldn't be in that relationship. Yeah, but I'm also old, and you

512
00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:55.199
know I think that's pretty good advice, though, he thinks, so okay.

513
00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:59.960
Yeah. After spotting the black Cheep
on their surveillance footage, then I

514
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:04.079
of Moe's murder and finding the same
g at Collins House. The next day,

515
00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:08.119
the police department dug up an outstanding
class be arrest a warrant for Caitlin

516
00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:15.639
stemming from an old charge involving an
unpaid botox bill from twenty eighteen. Her

517
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:19.880
maxed out credit card was declined.
She told the manager, I'll be right

518
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:22.760
back and I'll just bring you another
card, but she never did. You'd

519
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:25.119
pay those botox bills? You never
know when it's going to come back to

520
00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:29.719
haunt you, and how much do
you pay for your boatox, I'd better

521
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:35.679
not say. On May twelfth,
Caitlin was arrested and brought into the homicide

522
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:38.960
unit for questioning. Once she was
there, police learned that the warrant was

523
00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:43.760
no longer valid because of a mix
up with her birth date, and she

524
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:46.480
was told she was free to leave
this little technicality. I know, I'll

525
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:52.039
get you. However, she stayed
and answered questions. Officers noted that she

526
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:57.199
was oddly still and quiet during the
interview. When shown the video of her

527
00:37:57.280 --> 00:38:00.000
vehicle at the crime scene, she
said she had no idea how it had

528
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:05.280
gotten there. She denied knowing that
Colin had seen mo. On May eleventh,

529
00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:08.800
after a few moments of uncomfortable silence, Caitlin asked to leave the interview.

530
00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:15.159
A friend of Moe's, who requested
to remain anonymous because she thought she

531
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:19.039
could be in danger, was interviewed
by police. She is referred to by

532
00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:22.840
the name of Jane Doe in the
indictment. She claimed that Moe and Colin

533
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:27.199
Strickland had been intertwined off and on
for some time, not just for a

534
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:30.480
week, as Colin had said.
The relationship began when Moe visited Austin for

535
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:35.480
the first time. In October twenty
twenty one, Jane Doe said that Caitlin

536
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:38.719
Armstrong found out about Moa and Colin
talking to each other. She called Moe

537
00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:43.079
and threatened her, telling her to
stay away from Colin, and then she

538
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:46.599
followed her on Instagram. She called
her several more times until Moe blocked her

539
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:51.920
number. According to the source,
on May fourteenth, twenty twenty two,

540
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:55.039
an anonymous friend of Caitlyn's came forward
and told police that she was with her

541
00:38:55.119 --> 00:39:00.159
one night in January of the same
year. She recalled that Caitlin was I

542
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:04.360
rate and hyper focused on what she
assumed to be the continuing affair between Mo

543
00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:09.079
and Colin. The friend said that
she wanted to kill Mo. The friend

544
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:15.719
was very worried because Caitlin had recently
acquired the firearm. After seeing Caitlin and

545
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:19.960
Colin together at a race in January, Moe was confused and sent him the

546
00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:23.599
following text message, Hey, So, I would like to talk to you

547
00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:28.599
at some point. I had originally
texted you on Friday, but it appears

548
00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:31.480
my text aren't going through again.
This weekend was strange for me and I

549
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:35.760
just want to know what's going on. If you just want to be friends

550
00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:38.199
seems to be the case, then
that's cool. But I'd like to talk

551
00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:43.039
about it because honestly, my mind
has been going in circles and I don't

552
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:46.079
know what to think. So Mo
thought that she was like in an exclusive

553
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:52.079
relationship with Colin. I think that
Colin began telling people, Oh, Caitlin

554
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:57.679
and I aren't really together, we're
more like business partners. So when she

555
00:39:57.800 --> 00:40:00.480
saw them together, she must have
been a little taken of. I don't

556
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:01.480
know if she thought that. I
don't. I don't think that she thought

557
00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:05.840
they were exclusive, but who knows
what Colin was telling her. That sounds

558
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:08.159
like he was playing her in some
way. He was absolutely playing her as

559
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:12.559
far, I believe that he was
playing other people too, not just her.

560
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:15.679
So Colin replied the next day,
didn't even reply that day. The

561
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:20.360
next day, Hey, Mo,
I feel very shitty for putting you in

562
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:23.480
a position where you don't feel comfortable. Caitlyn came along to go to a

563
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:30.400
meeting about the Sprinter Spartan hotel project. In hindsight, this was not a

564
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:34.000
good idea. It's a business partner, eh, go in to a meeting.

565
00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:37.920
So I just want to go over
the timeline again, so eight sixteen

566
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:42.239
on May eleventh, the timeline of
May eleventh. On eight sixteen, Mo

567
00:40:42.440 --> 00:40:46.519
and Colin left the Burger place,
and it is believed that Caitlin was following

568
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:50.480
them for a certain amount of time. We're not sure how long. But

569
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:54.880
at eight twenty six the duo up
here on traffic cameras heading back to Caitlyn's

570
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:59.599
apartment. At eight thirty five,
Colin dropped Mo off at the apartment.

571
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:05.360
Eight thirty six, Moe enters the
apartment, and eight thirty seven is when

572
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:09.559
Caitlyn's jeep shows up. But I
don't believe there's any footage of her actually

573
00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:15.000
leaving her vehicles. I'm sure she
did saw the car. Yeah. Eight

574
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:19.960
forty eight, Colin is spotted again
on traffic camera about eight miles away on

575
00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:24.719
his motorcycle. So he's really just
isn't you know, wasn't right at the

576
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:29.199
right place, you know, at
the right time to be considered a suspect.

577
00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:32.960
At eight fifty six, Caitlin Caitlin
with the sea called nine one one,

578
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:37.000
and at ten to ten Mo was
pronounced dead. Okay, So ballistic

579
00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:40.760
tests were run on the SIGs hour
pistol that belonged to Caitlin. It was

580
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:46.000
determined not one hundred percent, but
it was determined very likely that it was

581
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:52.119
a match for the bullet casings found
lying next to Moe's body. Investigators learned

582
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:55.840
that Caitlyn had gone to a shooting
range with her sister and practice shooting the

583
00:41:55.880 --> 00:42:00.039
gun. Moe's cause of death was
the three guns sho wounds, two to

584
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:04.920
her head and one to her heart. The manner of death was homicide.

585
00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:10.400
Police issued a warrant on May seventeenth
for Kaitlin Armstrong after the ballistics test came

586
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:15.000
back confirming it was likely her gun
that continued that killed mo. The charge

587
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:20.199
was first degree felony murder, and
the sentence for that is somewhere between five

588
00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:23.159
and ninety nine years. If the
murder is considered a crime of passion,

589
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:29.559
the maximum sentence is about twenty years. The affidavit for her arrest points to

590
00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:34.280
video surveillance as evidence that Kaitlyn Armstrong
was present at the crime scene during the

591
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:38.599
time that Moe was murdered. Caitlyn
had means and a motive. After May

592
00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:44.719
thirteenth, Colin didn't see Caitlyn again. She deleted all of her social media

593
00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:50.280
accounts and seemed to vanish into thin
air. Caitlyn went on the run.

594
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:54.360
The day after Caitlin was questioned by
police, she sold her black Cheep to

595
00:42:54.400 --> 00:43:00.199
an Austin CarMax dealership for twelve two
hundred dollars. The next day, she

596
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:06.840
boarded a flight to Austin International Bergstrom
Airport early in the afternoon to Houston Hobby

597
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:10.599
Airport. Once there, she took
another flight to LaGuardia Airport in New York.

598
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:15.639
By May seventeenth, when the warrant
was issued for her arrest, she

599
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:20.119
was long gone. Technically, she
hadn't really done anything wrong, right,

600
00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:23.920
No, well, no one ever
said don't leave town. Oh, I

601
00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:28.800
see what you're saying. Yeah.
Authorities had no idea that she had fled

602
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:35.000
the state. Eleven days after Caitlyn
left Texas, surveillance footage materialized of her

603
00:43:35.039 --> 00:43:39.760
at Newark Liberty International Airport from May
eighteen, but the marshals couldn't find her

604
00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:45.280
name on any flight manifests. After
they'd performed a search of all outbound flights,

605
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:50.519
Caitlyn had quite a head start.
In the video from the airport,

606
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:53.800
Caitlin donned a mask and wore her
yoga mat strapped to her back. It's

607
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:59.960
unclear where Caitlyn was between May fourteenth
and May seventeenth, but her sister worked

608
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:05.679
at a holistic camp and the cat
Skills called Camp Haven, a sustainable educational

609
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:10.480
campground and retreat. Caitlyn likely visited
her and borrowed or stole her passport.

610
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:15.639
A tipster called authorities days later and
said they'd seen Caitlyn in upstate New York

611
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:21.320
at Camp Haven. For weeks,
US Marshalls searched for Caitlin. Here's a

612
00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:23.800
brief clip of Caitlyn's dad. We
love you, Katie, and we are

613
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:28.719
going to figure this out. And
I know how she thinks, and I

614
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:32.480
know what she believes, and that
I know that she just would not do

615
00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:38.000
something like this. I know her, But do you ever really know anyone.

616
00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:43.079
You'd like to think that you know
your kids, but I guess that's

617
00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:47.280
not always the case. Investigator's only
lead was that Caitlyn loved to teach yoga,

618
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:51.960
and the last image they'd seen of
her she had her yoga met with

619
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:55.559
her. They decided to hone in
on that. Another tip came in that

620
00:44:55.639 --> 00:45:01.280
Caitlyn had flown to San Jose Costa
Rica. Caitlin used different names as she

621
00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:06.639
quietly traveled through Costa Rica by bus. She caught her long red hair and

622
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:10.119
dyed it brown, trying to keep
a low profile. Eventually, she settled

623
00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:15.239
down in the coastal town of Santa
Teresa. I mean, if you're gonna,

624
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:16.599
if you're gonna, you know,
it could be worse places to go.

625
00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:22.559
She began working and living at Don
John's Surf and Yoga Lodge. She

626
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:28.159
worked at the reception desk and taught
yoga for room and board. So I

627
00:45:28.840 --> 00:45:34.119
will post an image of a video
of this, But the Don John's Surf

628
00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:38.039
and Yoga Lodge, it looked looks
like a pretty cool place, very casual

629
00:45:38.119 --> 00:45:43.559
and laid back. And there's just
like this video of you know, all

630
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:46.920
the people that are relaxing there from
the top to the bottom in the buildings.

631
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:49.880
It's a cool video. I'll post
it. But it looks like him.

632
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:52.760
We should probably go there for research. I well, it shouldn't be

633
00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:59.599
researched before a case. Well,
I guess she used the name Ari Martin.

634
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:06.000
Don John's is largely a cooperative,
hostile community. The motto is relaxed

635
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:09.280
to the max. Many drifters come
to this area to escape one thing or

636
00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:14.960
another, and locals have learned not
to ask too many questions. Caitlyn perhaps

637
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:19.079
got a little too comfortable and let
her guard down in the Bucolic seaside village

638
00:46:19.079 --> 00:46:24.000
where the lazy sun drenched rays melt
one day into the next seamlessly, she

639
00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:29.360
slept in a bunk room with seven
other people. She formed friendships with some

640
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:32.239
locals and began going to the bar
even to drink, dance and have fun.

641
00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:38.039
Caitlin even went on some dates.
Forty three days later, on June

642
00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:43.719
twenty ninth, twenty twenty two US
marshalls stormed the front desk where Caitlyn was

643
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:47.840
working. They demanded to see her
documents, and she said one word Punta

644
00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:54.000
Arenas, meaning that's a location where
she had left her documents. They arrested

645
00:46:54.039 --> 00:46:59.599
her and drove her to the capital
city of San Jose. Among the belongings

646
00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:02.960
left behind at the resort was a
passport with the name Christine Armstrong, her

647
00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:08.119
sisters. It isn't clear if the
passport was stolen, but Christine Armstrong has

648
00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:13.360
not been charged with any crime yet. There was a receipt from a doctor's

649
00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:17.599
office for plastic surgery for six three
hundred and fifty dollars, Caitlyn got a

650
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:22.639
new nose. Oh wow. The
new nose and hair did make her look

651
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:27.400
like a different person. Caitlyn denied
having altered her nose, but she had

652
00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:30.920
disappeared from the resort for a few
days in early June. When she resurfaced,

653
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:35.599
she had a bandage on her nose
and bruising under her eyes. She

654
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:38.920
told her employer that she'd been in
a surfing accident. She was still wearing

655
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:43.519
a bandage across her nose when she
was arrested. I had sent you a

656
00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:45.800
picture earlier, and I told you
not to look at it. Can you

657
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:49.880
look at it now? Oh?
Sure, Yeah, she looks pretty different.

658
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:52.440
I think she looks really different.
Yeah, the hair, the hair

659
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:55.400
especially, But yeah, I guess
her face, the nose in her face,

660
00:47:55.440 --> 00:48:00.199
and I think she was probably,
you know, had a plan her

661
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:02.159
appearance, and she wasn't wearing as
much makeup. Yeah. Yeah, it

662
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:07.320
looks like she was trying to look
very plain and nondescript. Yeah. Calton

663
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:10.400
was deported from Costa Rica and extradited
to Texas, where she was held at

664
00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:15.159
the Travis County Jail. Her bond
was set at three point five million dollars.

665
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:22.119
She pleaded not guilty to the murder
of Moe Wilson. In October,

666
00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:27.599
guards escorted Caitlin to an off site
doctor's appointment. Despite being shackled, she

667
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:31.519
managed to escape their grasp and ran
with everything she had. She'd been a

668
00:48:31.559 --> 00:48:36.599
competitive runner and it showed. Oh
my, she ran a mile before guards

669
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:42.000
apprehended her. She was charged with
felony escape. Wow. Other inmates said

670
00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:45.400
that she'd been training for a chance
at an escape. She ran a mile

671
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:50.079
and shackled. I'm actually kind of
surprised they caught her. Like if you

672
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:52.519
get if you get a mile without
them catching you, like man, unless

673
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:55.519
they got in their car something and
caught up with her that way. Maybe

674
00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:59.880
who knows what they are I have
I do have a video of her fleeing,

675
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:04.320
but yeah, I will post that
too. Is the trial near the

676
00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:07.719
judge enacted a gag order to stop
the leaking of information to the media and

677
00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:15.320
public camera and audio recording was only
allowed during opening and closing statements and while

678
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:19.679
the verdict was read. The trial
started on November first, twenty twenty three,

679
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:22.760
so just last month. Yeah,
A slick attorney who was a former

680
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:29.360
prosecutor, represented Caitlin. He was
confident and cocky. He alleged that Caitlyn

681
00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:31.840
went on the run because she was
afraid of Colin Strickland. He was a

682
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:37.320
murderer. The attorney claimed that police
didn't test all of the evidence and failed

683
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:43.639
to consider any other suspect. It
was sometimes there isn't another suspect that it's

684
00:49:43.639 --> 00:49:49.159
always reason for that. He said
the case against her was based on quote

685
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:54.280
assumptions, confirmation bias, and a
lack of direct evidence like if there is

686
00:49:54.280 --> 00:50:00.159
not a video of someone shooting someone, there like all circumstantial exactly. He

687
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:02.320
also alleged that a rape kit had
been done on Mo but it had never

688
00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:08.760
been tested. He called the Austin
police sloppy. Among the evidence revealed during

689
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:14.920
the trial was Caitlin's DNA had been
found on the handlebars of Moe's bike,

690
00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:20.639
which was near the bushes. The
GPS data from Caitlyn's vehicle and her electronic

691
00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:24.480
a footprint was damning. She deleted
a search for Moe's address, purchased two

692
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:30.360
airline tickets, and created two new
Gmail accounts and a Skype account. She

693
00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:37.639
searched quote can pineapple burn fingerprints and
her name and Mo Wilson's can pineapple burn

694
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:42.280
fingerprints. It's a really odd thing. Yeah, I'm gonna go with that

695
00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:44.719
too. It's just so I didn't
know that. Was it weird that she

696
00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:47.119
would even think to search that?
And you know, usually I'm pretty I

697
00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:52.079
forgot to research that. Oh man, I was going to ask you.

698
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:58.480
So I'm assuming there was no evidence
of Caitlin in the house, that Moe

699
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:00.960
was staying at, no or anything
in the house, not that I know

700
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:06.920
of. The state focused on Caitlyn's
consciousness of guilt, the fact that she

701
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:13.079
fled the country using her sister's passport. Anne underwent plastic surgery. Colin Strickland

702
00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:17.119
testified during the trial. He was
belligerent and dismissive during his testimony. When

703
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:21.719
leaving the courtroom, he shoved a
camera man out of his way. He

704
00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:27.320
just not a good guy. No. An emotional moment during the trial occurred

705
00:51:27.320 --> 00:51:30.960
when footage from a neighbor's ring doorbell
was played and Moe could be heard screaming

706
00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:36.280
before three shotgun blasts were heard.
I heard that video and I did not

707
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:40.039
want to share it because it was
very emotional. The trial lasted two and

708
00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:44.880
a half weeks, Caitlyn opted not
to take the stand in her defense.

709
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:50.280
Here's a clip of Karen Moe's mom
reading her victim impact statement at the trial.

710
00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:55.639
I hate what you did to my
beautiful daughter. It was very selfish

711
00:51:55.719 --> 00:52:04.800
and powardly. Final went at on
many eleven. It was cowardly because you

712
00:52:04.920 --> 00:52:10.760
never chose to face her, woman
to woman in a civil conversation. She

713
00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:17.159
would have listened. She was an
amazing listener. She would have cared about

714
00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:23.719
your feelings. She was a caring, empathetic person. If you allowed yourself

715
00:52:23.760 --> 00:52:30.559
to actually know her, you never
ever would have wanted to hurt her.

716
00:52:32.599 --> 00:52:37.920
This never would have happened. You
and Colin could have had a beautiful life

717
00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:46.280
together. You destroyed that you were
owing to your life, your family's loves,

718
00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:53.320
our lives, and crushed the heart
so many more. When you shot

719
00:52:53.480 --> 00:53:00.119
Mariah in the heart, you shot
me in my heart. That's heartbreak.

720
00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:04.960
That is really sad. The audio
there is a little distorted because every time

721
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:07.119
she was crying and she'd sniffle,
and that that's what you're hearing there.

722
00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:12.920
Yeah. The jury returned the verdict
and under two hours guilty. Caitlyn was

723
00:53:12.960 --> 00:53:16.880
sentenced to ninety years in prison with
a chance at parole in thirty years and

724
00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:22.320
November thirty of her attorneys filed an
appeal. Obviously, that was just a

725
00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:24.360
few days ago, so we just
don't know yet. You don't know yet.

726
00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:29.960
The felony escape charge stemming from Caitlyn's
attempted to escape in October was dropped.

727
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:35.159
Initially, a second trial addressing those
charges had been scheduled to occur directly

728
00:53:35.199 --> 00:53:39.679
after after the first trial. Yeah, it was wonder why. Yeah,

729
00:53:39.679 --> 00:53:43.599
but sometimes they like to have a
backup plan, like in case something happened

730
00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:45.760
on appeal, maybe you know,
they got her birth date wrong or some

731
00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:50.280
you know, technicality. They probably
I guess they could go back and charge

732
00:53:50.320 --> 00:53:52.000
her again if they they probably know
she's going to probably try it again.

733
00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:57.760
I mean, she's she was determined
to get deterrement. She's just I mean,

734
00:53:57.800 --> 00:54:01.119
she's a smart lady. Di bibolical
I guess I could say. So.

735
00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:07.039
Here's a clip of Mo's dad Eric
after the trial, after the verdict.

736
00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:15.360
Other than prosecution team, there really
are no winners here. This is

737
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:21.199
not a time for celebration, but
a time for prayer. Time to pray

738
00:54:21.239 --> 00:54:29.880
for our family, our friends and
the family, the Armstrong family and their

739
00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:37.679
friends. This sad story is a
perfect example of why integrity and honesty are

740
00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:45.400
crucial in our personal relationships and how
dishonesty can often lead to unintended consequences.

741
00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:53.840
Selfish manipulation, jealousy, and hatred
never lead to positive outcomes. Violence is

742
00:54:53.880 --> 00:55:00.599
never a good way to solve personal
personal issues. In fact, violence doesn't

743
00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:07.079
solve anything, It only leads to
more suffering. Our lives are changed forever.

744
00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:14.320
But with this challenging ordeal now behind
us, we are ready to move

745
00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:22.400
forward and continue our healing. And
we will do this with Mariah's strong,

746
00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:28.800
determined, gentle and kind spirit,
for we know this is what she would

747
00:55:28.840 --> 00:55:37.360
want us to do. Mariah inspired
everybody everyone who knew her, and we

748
00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:45.000
are dedicated to preserving her legacy.
She expressed a strong desire to serve others

749
00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:52.880
and to give back to her community, and we endeavor to do that with

750
00:55:53.440 --> 00:56:04.760
the Mariah Wilson Foundation established in her
honor. Thank you very much, I

751
00:56:04.960 --> 00:56:07.760
say, both her parents just seem
like really good, empathetic people. The

752
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:12.280
fact that he suggested, you know, prayers for Caitlyn's family as well,

753
00:56:12.519 --> 00:56:20.320
just says a lot. Sorry,
it's me choking back to yours exceptional people.

754
00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:22.960
Just really and like you said that
that really struck me too, is

755
00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:28.039
like you know these both these families
are suffering, and you know Caitlyn's parents

756
00:56:28.039 --> 00:56:30.920
deserve a little bit of empathy too. Yeah, it's really sad. I

757
00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:35.639
just wanted to say mo was more
than an athlete. She was a daughter,

758
00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:37.119
sister, and her friend to many. She was kind, smart,

759
00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:40.760
dedicated, and a hard worker.
She had big goals and dreams and there's

760
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:45.360
just no doubt that she would have
achieved them. Yeah. She died way,

761
00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:49.599
way, way too young. Specialized
the cycling equipment company where Moe had

762
00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:52.960
previously worked. Set in an Instagram
post, like many of you, were

763
00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:57.840
devastated by the tragic loss of a
friend who exuded so much inspiration, determination

764
00:56:57.960 --> 00:57:02.320
and joy. Betsy what a journalist, fellow, and who said that's one

765
00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:06.400
reason why I covered her so much. She just kept winning all these races,

766
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:08.679
and I thought, wow, this
is one to watch. It's it's

767
00:57:08.679 --> 00:57:13.199
a small sport in terms of number
of pros who do it for a living.

768
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:16.079
She immediately stood out. I saw
funny clips left because I saw a

769
00:57:16.079 --> 00:57:21.480
funny clipper. Betsy was talking about
how you because Mo had so many first

770
00:57:21.519 --> 00:57:25.719
finishes the year that she died.
When race she came in second and Betsy

771
00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:29.079
was like, Oh, I can't
believe she came in second. Well,

772
00:57:29.079 --> 00:57:32.519
she had a flat tire, so
you know that's why. That's the only

773
00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:37.639
reason she came in second. Mo's
friend Danica Ashnaal also said in an Instagram

774
00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:42.360
post, quote, now, now
what we must do is take her light,

775
00:57:42.519 --> 00:57:45.199
absorb it into ourselves, and shine
it on others as brightly as she

776
00:57:45.320 --> 00:57:50.239
did. There was a bubble of
positivity and joy around her, and we

777
00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:53.679
all wanted to be in her bubble. Moe was a former elite alpine ski

778
00:57:53.800 --> 00:58:00.920
racer turned endurance cyclist and was on
a beautiful trajectory not just to win races,

779
00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:05.800
but to win in open hearts.
Moe's family felt compelled to make a

780
00:58:05.840 --> 00:58:12.199
statement about her relationship status after speculation
rose online about her relationship with Colin.

781
00:58:13.199 --> 00:58:16.440
They said, quote, while we
will not elaborate about the ongoing investigation,

782
00:58:16.599 --> 00:58:21.039
we do feel it's important to clarify
that at the time of her death,

783
00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:25.639
those closest to her clearly understood directly
from Mariah that she was not in a

784
00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:35.079
romantic relationship with anyone. So that's
the story of Mo Wilson. Very well

785
00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:37.880
told. Thank you, very sad, Rest in peace, Mo. Our

786
00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:43.000
thoughts are with the Wilson family this
holiday season. Do you feel as if

787
00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:46.320
justice was served? Yeah, it
seems like it. I mean, it

788
00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:52.039
definitely seems like I guess my only
question originally was whether Colin knew about it

789
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:54.639
or had anything to do with it, But it sounds like he's pretty much

790
00:58:54.800 --> 00:59:00.239
other than being maybe not the best
guy in the world and seeing multiple women

791
00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:02.119
at the same time, he didn't. It's pretty clear that he had nothing

792
00:59:02.159 --> 00:59:07.119
to do with her murder, didn't
have any knowledge of it, nothing like

793
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:09.960
that, right exactly. I think
that's my belief. Yeah, Colin is

794
00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:14.199
a dirt bag, but he's not. I don't believe he's a murderer.

795
00:59:14.239 --> 00:59:20.159
And I think that Caitlin just got
caught up in the moment. And I

796
00:59:20.159 --> 00:59:23.119
think jealousy is a bad, bad
thing. Well, I think it was

797
00:59:23.679 --> 00:59:28.360
compounded over months and months of you
know, are they or are they?

798
00:59:28.400 --> 00:59:31.639
Or what's going on? And yeah, reading someone's text messages. Can I

799
00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:35.159
mean, just just don't do it. I ever gonna lead anywhere good,

800
00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:45.400
No, it's not you were a
little distracted by the Amazon truck business.

801
00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:47.800
But it all get some weird.
It was crazy, Like we're in this

802
00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:52.480
quiet little cul de sac and all
of a sudden there's two Amazon trucks and

803
00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:54.360
one is backed up to the other
one. They were like backed up to

804
00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:59.440
each other, and I really am
not sure what happened. All I know

805
00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:01.159
is there's a really big box on
our front porch, or there was.

806
01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:05.239
I know that is a really big
box. I'm a little scared to open

807
01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:07.039
it, honestly that we've had a
couple that I'm like, holy moly,

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what did I do? Sometimes they
packed you know, it could be a

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really big box, but just a
tiny little thing inside you never know.

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Well I know what's in it,
I'm pretty sure, and I did it

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a small house. Well it's some
So our daughter, can she hear me?

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I don't think she listens to the
podcast. She's almost a teacher,

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01:00:28.480 --> 01:00:31.559
it's almost going to graduate, and
she's kind of freaking out about having things

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01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:35.880
for her classroom. Yeah, because
as we know, teachers have to buy

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to buy a bunch of their own
stuff. So I bought her a few

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01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:43.480
like toys for the classroom. So
that's I think that's what's in that big

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box, very large. What are
the biggest set of Lincoln logs you can

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01:00:46.719 --> 01:00:50.280
buy? Because I think that's a
great toy, right, that's a really

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big set of Lincoln logs. It's
a big box. But we also had

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a new family member this week.
What did I buy it for myself?

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01:01:00.239 --> 01:01:04.400
It was not It was a gift
for the whole family. We finally got

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01:01:04.599 --> 01:01:08.079
so cute scooting around the house.
It hads like a little person one for

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years, but I finally was like
black Fried and like, I just we

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01:01:12.159 --> 01:01:15.679
need to do it because I don't
have time to clean anymore. So yeah,

825
01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:17.760
it's pretty cool. The cats really
really love it. Oh my gosh,

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no, they they do not like
there was a big fight last night

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01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:27.400
and our house underneath the Christmas tree. Holy moly, I thought Cosmo was

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01:01:27.400 --> 01:01:30.159
going to kill Clover. It was
bad. It's a stressful time of year

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01:01:30.199 --> 01:01:34.360
for everybody, and especially when you
bring a roomba into the house. Well,

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01:01:34.400 --> 01:01:38.360
I think they just he thinks that
he has DIBs. First, he

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01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:44.320
likes he likes the Christmas tree.
Yeah, I see you brought your new

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01:01:44.400 --> 01:01:49.800
Stanley to the I did a whim. I got rich a Stanley. Now

833
01:01:49.840 --> 01:01:54.079
he's a Stanley, girl, Tell
him a Stanley. I think everyone knows

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01:01:54.079 --> 01:01:59.400
it's yeah, everybody knows that Stanley. A lot of people are using the

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01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:01.719
Stanley, but your rate reading of
the Stanley, I like it. I'm

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01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:06.360
not a big water bottle kind of
everyone else in our house always uses water

837
01:02:06.440 --> 01:02:09.559
bottle. I'm trying to adapt because
everyone else uses a water bottle, so

838
01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:15.840
I'm trying to. Okay, it's
nice to always have it in your reach.

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And all right, well, I
think that's all we have for today.

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