Kouri and Eric Richins

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Hi. I'm Tina and I'm Rich. And if there's one thing we've learned

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in over twenty years of marriage,
it's that some days you'll feel like killing

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your wife and some days you'll feel
like killing your husband. Welcome to love,

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Mary Kill, Hi Rich, Hi
Tina, what are you doing here?

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I am here doing a crossbrod puzzle. You might have to put the

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crossbord puzzle down. Yeah, I
just brought it with in case I get

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bored, but I am. Wow, that's nice. I don't think you're

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gonna get bored. I think i'm
gonna I'm going to present you a very

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interesting case. I've actually been working
on this one for a while. Yeah,

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put it on the back burner when
I did the Kennon Barbie case,

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the kenn and Barbie Killers, and
so I've been dying to talk to you

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about this. I am interested to
hear it, but I'm like, I

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don't know anything about it, because
you've mentioned a couple of things about different

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cases, but you are working on
so many at one time that I don't

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know which one we're actually going to
talk about today. I need to do

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better. Well, I'm going to
start with giving you something really, really

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quick here. I think you're going
to be excited about this. I've never

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done this before. But it's a
little drink. Oh okay, it's actually

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an alcoholic beverage. It's one fifteen
on Sunday afternoon bed heck, oh boy,

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it's five o'clock. We've never done
this before. A lot of our

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fellow podcasters do drinks, and you
know their case, but we've never done

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this before. Meant, it's a
Moscow mule I which is part of our

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case today. Yeah, and I
thought I ordered the Moscow mule cups from

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Amazon, but I they never came, so I must not have so and

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I'm not much of a mixologist.
How how did I do? It's good,

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really good one before I like,
I really like Moscow. Actually haven't

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had one in a long time,
but yeah, it's really good. Like

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ginger beer. Did you get ginger
beer? And our lovely daughter actually went

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to the store and got ginger beer
for us, So I will give you

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the recipe. You can find it
online. But two ounces of vodka,

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one half ounce of fresh lime juice, three ounces of ginger beer, preferably

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fever Tree Tree fever Tree, which
is actually coincidentally the brand that she got

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for us. Yeah. Oh,
I forgot the lime wedge. I'm so

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sorry. It's one of the garbage. She can cook carab a few.

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I forgot that. But yeah,
I found that nice little insulated cup that

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was in our donate pile. I
don't remember this at all. Yeah,

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it's from you. We have all
these we get all these weird things that

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we don't really necessarily want that you
bring home from trade shows. Yeah,

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and yeah, I was like,
oh, this is perfect because I didn't

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have the copper cup. Yeah.
Well it's really good. Thank you.

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I hope I don't get too loopy. I know you can. You can

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drink the whole. I mean it's
only, you know, two ounces of

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vodka, so I can't get it
too much strong. I'm gonna chug it

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right, go ahead. I was
gonna make one for myself too, and

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I was like, a, I'll
just give it to you. But speaking

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of our adorable daughter, sorry,
I was bending over. She made us

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some cookies too, Oh man,
I know's just keep on coming. Do

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you want to eat this? Yeah? Sorry? Here is that a rhetorical

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question? No? But yeah,
she made those last night with her boyfriend.

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And there we'll take a bite and
I'll come back and tell you what

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it is. Okay. So the
cookies our daughter made for us, our

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pistachio white chocolate chip cookies. So
good. Yeah, really good, and

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I forgot. I also brought dots
home style pretzels because everyone, really,

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we had so many people that hadn't
tried dots when we first talked about that

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many months, one of our earlier, earliest snacks. But I brought cinnamon

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sugar seasoned pretzel twist. They're man, I think they're super good. Yeah,

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they're really good. I'm like,
I'm overwhelmed by all the goodness here.

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Yeah, our son did not like
these cinnamon sugar pretzels, but I

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think they're really good there. Yeah, I think they're very good, really

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sweet, and I don't know,
I think they're really yummy. Yeah,

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great, great flavor. But if
you wouldn't like a pretzel sugar on it,

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you probably it's a taste like cinnamon
toast to me. Yeah, yeah,

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exactly, so good. Yeah,
good snacks. Yeah, way to

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go me, Yeah, good job. Thanks well. Our daughter gave me

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the cookie right before we went on, and it was delicious, very good.

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I should also say, though,
you and I both have been eating

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as little sugar as possible, So
anytime I put sugar mouth, I'm like,

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this is the best thing I ever
read. Okay, So I was

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just gonna give you this story about
the Moscow mule really quick. And this

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is pretty much coming right from the
Moscow Copper Company's website. I edited a

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little bit. In nineteen forty one, Sophy Berazinski emigrated to the United States

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from Russia carrying two thousand solid copper
mugs. Probably she had them in boxes.

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I don't think she had them on
her backs. That's two thousands a

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lot. Sophie's father owned and operated
a copper factory in Russia known as the

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Moscow Copper Company. Sophie had created
this design for the original copper mug,

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and her father ran the presses that
stamped out the mugs. Unable to sell

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the mugs in Russia, Sophie decided
to make the journey to America, but

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the mugs didn't sell and seemed destined
for the scrap heap in America too.

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Sophie's husband, Max, was tired
of a copper mugs cluttering the house and

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told her to find a buyer for
the mugs or I'm tossing them. She

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began desperately seeking out a buyer,
walking door to door in Hollywood in search

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of a restaurant or lounge owner who
was interested in the mugs. During one

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of her long days in search of
a buyer for the mugs, Fade intervened

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and Sophie walked into the famous Cock
and Bull pub on the Sunset Strip.

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Her timing was perfect. She helped
create a Moscow mule with John Martin,

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who had recently purchased the floundering Smernoff
vodka in the nineteen thirties. It's hard

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to believe that Smernoff vodka was ever
floundering Americans. Americans had no interest in

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vodka. Beer, whiskey, or
other cocktails ruled the roost in America at

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this time. Jack Morgan was in
a similar bind as owner of the Cock

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and Bowl. He was trying to
introduce America to his own brand of ginger

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beer. The duo lamented their lackluster
sales and sought redemption for their respective products

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and walked Sophie with her solid copper
mugs. If Sophie would tell the story,

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the trio spent hours developing a drink
that would bring together the fizzy nature

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of the ginger beer, the punch
of the vodka, and the cold properties

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of copper to create the next great
cocktail. After a number of taste tests

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and a few failed concoctions, they
stumbled upon a recipe for a cocktail that

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would solve all their problems. The
Moscow Mule was born on that day in

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nineteen forty one, the perfect combination
of vodka and ginger beer housed in the

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solid copper mug that kept the drink
cold and enhanced its flam or in flavor

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and a roma, resulting in a
cocktail that America would fawn over for the

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next century and beyond. Wow.
I don't know if we fawn over it.

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I fawn over it. I had
no idea there was such a rich

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history there to the Moscow Mule.
Yeah. Well, I'm glad you enjoyed

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it. I love that it was
born out of a husband basically telling the

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wife, you better do something with
these mugs or I'm going to be pissed

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off. Yeah. So, how
much of that have you drink? Oh?

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I don't know, maybe a quarter
of it? Okay, probably enough.

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Today I'm going to tell you the
story of Corey and Eric Richens.

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The case has not made its way
through the justice system yet. Corey is

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innocent until proven guilty by a court
of law. She is accused of poisoning

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her husband of nine years, Eric
with a fentinyl laced moscow mule. Oh,

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this whole thing, it is sad
technologues. So you'll have to This

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is like you'll have to find out
at the end of the episode, like

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how far will Rich make it to
the end of the episode. This was

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an unexpected twist in the case.
I should not have shouldn't be joking because

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of course your moscow mule is probably
not. Of course it's probably not.

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And also I will I will post
the recipe for the cookies because they really

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are really good. Sometimes our daughter
gets angry because her cookies she thinks aren't

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as good as mine. But these
I think are better than I think.

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They're right on right. Okay,
I'm going to start with reading Eric Ritchins

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obituary. It's really long, but
it really gets to the nugget of who

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Eric was. Okay, Eric Eugene
Richens made his last extravagant and largely unexpected

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gesture on March fourth, twenty twenty
two, signing off on a life,

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in his own words, lived the
fullest and with few regrets. God certainly

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perfected the mold. When Eric was
born to Jean and Linda Carter Richen's on

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May thirteenth, nineteen eighty two in
Bountiful, Utah. Eric's world revolved around

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his family, his love for hunting, the family cattle ranch, and his

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insane drive as a successful entrepreneur.
Being born into the Richen's legacy shaped Eric's

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formative years and resulted in a lifetime
of hard work, dedication, and fierce

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loyalty. Being the eldest was a
dubious task, but he was up for

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the challenge and led and loved his
sisters fiercely. At an early age,

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Eric learned the joys of keeping horses
and cows around. He spent countless hours

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helping his dad work the ranch,
hauling hay, feeding the animals, and

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mending fences. He loved his family
unconditionally and was a devoted son, brother,

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and uncle. Eric was a family
man who always strove to be the

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absolute best father and husband. He
was an attentive and loving father to his

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three sons, Carter, Ash and
Weston, and a devoted husband to the

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love of his life and wife of
nine years, Corey Darden Richens. Eric

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did absolutely everything in his power to
provide his family with every possible opportunity to

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learn, grow and have fun.
Growing up. Eric was a serious athlete

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who loved all sports, whether it
was watching them or playing them. He

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was involved in cross country, basketball, baseball, and soccer. He was

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also the coach or assistant coach on
all his boys teams. He spent countless

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hours coaching and teaching the boys to
play aggressive and give it there all.

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Eric truly cared about every single child
he coached and wanted the absolute best for

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all of them. Eric was an
avid outdoorsman and dedicated hunter. He was

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an excellent archer and marksman and had
multiple trophy animals from all around the world

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including Africa, Mexico, Canada,
and the United States. There was never

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a dull moment when you are around
Eric, whether it would be showing up

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to a family dinner with no socks
or sleeves on his shirt because he had

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to make an emergency bathroom stop along
the way, or his calling to tell

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you he rolled the four wheeler for
the umteenth time, is stuck and needs

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you to come get him. Eric
loved to have fun and was always the

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life of the party. He owned
almost every motorized toy possible, from four

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wheelers to side by sides, to
trucks and snowmobiles. Because of this,

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he of course holds the Richmond's Family
records for the most roles and collisions of

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motorcycle motorized vehicles, as well as
the most stitches received from a single incident

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two hundred on his face to be
exact. Eric was a member of the

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Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day
Saints. He served a two year mission

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in Mexico, where he learned to
speak Spanish fluently. He received a bachelor's

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degree from the University of Utah and
International Studies with a minor in Spanish.

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Together, Eric's mission and his education
truly saved shaped his business acumen. He

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had the perfect combination of business sense
and foresight. He built a very successful

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masonry business from the ground up and
helped many friends do the same. He

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had a special ability to build close
relationships with everyone he worked with, which

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really allowed his business to thrive.
Eric loved every aspect of his job,

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but most of all, he loved
the people he worked for and those he

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worked with. Eric faithfully supported organizations
that he truly believed it. He never

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was one that wanted recognition or accolades. He did most things anonymously and without

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recognition. Eric was a true champion
of all people. It did not matter

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if you were an employee, family
friend, or the next random person walking

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down the street. If you needed
anything, you could count on him.

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He truly cared about each person He
meant. He was always trying to help

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people find better situations in work and
in life. Eric made sure to set

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time aside to do what he loved
most and made sure that everyone around him

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did the same. Eric loved fully, laughed loudly, and lived life with

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reckless abandon He enjoyed great adventures to
far off places, but also cherished the

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small and finer things in life,
like his under arm or sweatsuits and spending

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time with his family and friends.
No obstacle was too great here Rico.

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He simply viewed each one as a
challenge. No peaks were too high,

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and the next adventure was always just
around the next bend. Words can't describe

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the loneliness and loss that has felt
in every heart that was lucky enough to

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know him. We all need to
learn from Eric's example and be sure to

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make the time to have fun and
do what we love. Thank you Rico

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for being such an inspiration and role
model for us all. We love you

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Eric with all our hearts and more. And there's a little bit more about

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his relatives that are still living well. He sounds like quite a guy.

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Yeah, someone who loved life.
Yeah, it sounds like a really fun

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person who did not deserve the faith
that befell him. I wanted to mention

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too, but it was in though. But you were. But Eric's mother

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died in twenty eighteen after a battle
with cancer, and she sounds like she

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was also a really great lady.
She was a lifelong teacher, educator,

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and principle. So the Richmonds family
is one of the oldest and most established

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in Summit County, Utah. They
have been active members in the community,

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local politics, and the LDS Church
for decades. A library is even named

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for one of Eric's relatives. Summit
County is in the upper eastern corner of

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Utah, bordered by Wyoming. The
Uenta Mountain Range runs east to west and

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the Wasatch Mountains north to south.
The largest city in Summit County is Park

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City, which is home to the
Sundance Film Festival every January. Summit County

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is beautiful, with an abundance of
both summer and winter outdoor activities, and

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is a great place to visit.
The county is the most diverse and religion

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in the state. Forty four percent
claim no religion, and about thirty eight

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percent of the county identify themselves as
Latter day Saints. About sixty six percent

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of Utah residents identify as LDS or
Mormon. President of the Mormon Church Russell

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Nelson insisted that Mormons and non Mormons
alike stick to the term quote the Church

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of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints
instead of saying Mormon or LDS. Mister

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Nelson ninety eight said that the policy
change came to him in a revelation from

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God, and that members of the
church must work to adjust their vernacular.

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Quote. The Lord has impressed upon
my mind the importance of the name he

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has revealed for his church. The
church's updated style guide specifies that quote Mormon

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Church, Mormons, and Mormonism are
no longer acceptable, and no, you

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should not use the abbreviation LDS either
kind of a mouthful to say the whole

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thing. I know, so I'm
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Okay, hopefully we will be Hopefully
we won't offend anyone. Yeah. So

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you know kind of a lot about
Utah. I've spent a lot of time

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in Utah. You did in Park
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Park City was dis gorgeous. I
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Sunday Film Festival a couple of times

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and it was just so so great. I just had a great time there.

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We've, for a brief time,
considered moving to Utah. Did were

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very serious about that possibility, isn't
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of the job you had at the
time. Yep, yep. The company

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was headquartered there, and we thought
about moving there. I knew a lot

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of people there. It was a
great, great place, really great people,

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and uh yeah, it didn't didn't
quite work out. But beautiful,

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beautiful area. That's a great place. So Air grew up on a cattle

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ranch where the days were long and
full of chores like mending fences, feeding

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animals, monkey bucking stalls, and
baling. Hey, Eric was one of

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those guys that was more comfortable outside
than in. He loved to be outside

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playing sports or hunting and fishing.
Eric and his good friend Cody Wright started

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a successful masonry business called C.
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and they have an Instagram account that
still exists, and their work is

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just stunning. Yeah, and they
do work on these, you know,

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multimillion dollar homes and it's just just
amazing because I think remember years ago when

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we were looking I think when we
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looked at this house that a tile
a tile guy who had owned it.

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It was just really stunning. Yeah, so much you don't have that.

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You don't see that kind of like
artisan craft work very much anymore. Yeah.

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They built beautiful lands, hardscapes and
intricate indoor a tile for upscale homes

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in Salt Lake City area and like
I said, you can look them up

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on Instagram. Just really impressive.
The business partners had mutual life insurance policies

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on each other, which is common
for business partners. The business was worth

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about four million dollars at the time
of Eric's death, which that's a that's

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a lot of money for like a
business that they built from the ground up.

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Eric was friendly and outgoing, and
he made friends wherever he went.

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One special friend was Linda King,
who he met at the home Depot,

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where Eric visited almost daily. She
told ABC News four quote, he was

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the sweetest guy to me. He
seemed like one of my kids. Seriously,

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he was just the sweetest, sweetest
guy. He was so nice to

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all of his employees and everybody ud
quote. Linda said she misses Eric and

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his laugh dally dearly, and he
had the best laugh in town. She

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also recalled how much he loved being
a dad. Linda was the one who

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introduced Corey and Eric. Corey Darden
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Corey was young, pretty and single. When Eric was at the store,

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he'd wait to go through Linda's checkout
lane, but one day she was busy

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and she encouraged him to go through
Corey's lane. They hit it off immediately

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and began dating. Eric was married
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They were married in August two thousand
and five, but divorced in two thousand

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and nine. They didn't have any
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Julie cheated on Eric with a co
worker, prompting the divorce. Julie,

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who was just twenty six, was
tragically killed in a car accident in January

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twenty eleven when she was rear ended
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miles an hour. So I was
really sad. Corey and Eric were married

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on June fifteen, twenty thirteen.
Corey was pregnant at the time with their

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first child. On the day of
their wedding, Corey was presented with a

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prenup by Eric's mother. Apparently the
divorce had heard Eric pretty badly and it

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had gotten messy. But the prenup
was fair, dividing everything in half and

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in the case of his death,
Corey would inherit the bulk of his estate,

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which she believed to be about three
point six million dollars. So pretty

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nice. Yeah, what do you
think about getting his mom to deliver the

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prenup? Though? That kind of
makes me laugh a little. I mean,

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it is kind of funny, but
it struck me as she was just

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the matriarch and she just was going
to take care of her kids no matter

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what. Good for her We don't
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but she went to Weber State University
and earned a bachelor's degree in healthcare administration

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and later received a master's degree from
Utah State University and Human Resources. In

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twenty ten, she started a housekeeping
company. People she went to school with

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said that she was nice and pretty, but she was also smart, driven,

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and hard worker. She seemed determined
to be successful at any cost.

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It almost seemed like Corey had something
that she was trying to prove to everyone,

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like I'm successful and yeah. So
Corey and Eric had three sons together

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and rapid succession. Eric didn't want
Corey to work outside the home. He

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wanted her to stay home and raise
the boys, but she preferred to work.

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They got a nanny, and along
with help from family, Corey went

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back to school again and received her
real estate license. She opened her own

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real estate company, Kay Ritchen's Realty
in twenty nineteen with Eric's help. Corey

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enjoyed flipping houses. And you know, you can make a lot of money

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flipping houses, but it's dependent on
the volatile housing market and choosing the right

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property. It requires a lot of
up from capital, but Corey had a

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lot of connections in the construction business
and believed that she could make her business

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successful. But as early as twenty
sixteen, Corey began stealing money from Eric's

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business account and running up debt on
his personal credit cards. Oh Boy,

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twenty twenty, Corey had stolen over
one hundred thousand dollars and possibly as much

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as two hundred thousand dollars from the
business account and spent thirty thousand dollars on

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his personal credit card. She had
also taken out a two hundred and fifty

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thousand dollars home equity line of credit
in his name against their home using a

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forged durable power of attorney. Or
did she like did she do the books

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for his business or how was she
able to like steal this money from his

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business? I think at the time
she was heavily involved in their business.

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Corey also stole about one hundred and
thirty five thousand dollars in money that Eric

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had set aside to pay his business
taxes. He had asked her to pay

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them, and she claimed that she
had, but she pocketed the money.

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So all of that come and that's
that's a lot of money that shouldn't catch

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up with you eventually. Yeah,
And thinking about that, when you think

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about my addiction to buying as leisure
wear, it pails in comparison, right,

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which one pails in comparison Your addiction
pails in comparison to yes? Yes.

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When Eric learned of her financial misdeeds, he demanded she pay him back,

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and she agreed. I think they
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separate, and in January twenty twenty
two, she hacked into Eric's computer and

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changed the beneficiary on his life insurance
policy from code eacher herself. She also

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changed the beneficiary on Cody's policy to
herself. Eric was alerted to the change

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by the insurance company and changed it
back immediately, but the trust he had

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and his wife was understandably broken.
What Eric didn't know was that Corey had

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taken out four secret insurance policies on
him between twenty fifteen and twenty seventeen,

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totaling nearly two million dollars without his
knowledge. Boy just a month prior to

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his death, Corey purchased another life
insurance policy on Eric for one hundred thousand

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dollars, and she also purchased life
insurance policies for her sons, which is

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super concerning to me. I'll say
so in this case. When I was

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researching this case, I kept asking
myself, like, how much money is

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enough money for you, Corey,
because I just don't understand, Like three

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point six million dollars seems like plenty
of money to me, right, Yeah.

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In twenty twenty, Eric secretly created
a living trust consisting of the family

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home, his personal property, and
his share of the CNE masonry business.

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He appointed his older sister, Katie
Richard Spenson, as executor, and he

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also changed his power of attorney.
Eric confided in his sister that Corey might

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try to kill him for his money. He told friends and family that if

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something happened to him, look no
further than Corey, which is kind of

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so frustrating, Like, yeah,
maybe I just wish he would have told

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Corey, Yeah, if you have
that suspicion, you should act on it.

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The living trust invalidated the prenuptial agreement. Eric consulted a divorce attorney,

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but waffled on whether or not to
file because he did love his wife and

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he really wanted to make his marriage
work, and he wanted a two parent

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family home for his children. I
know you're thinking white it and Eric divorce

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Corey. It was just important to
him that they stayed together. And he

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already had one failed marriage, right, and he didn't have kids from his

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first marriage, right, he did, so having three kids, I would

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imagine you would want to, you
know, give it every effort to try

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to keep the family together. That
was his intent. Eric had told family

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and friends that he thought Corey wasn't
beyond killing him for his money. The

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first incident occurred in twenty twenty when
they were vacationing in Greece. Eric called

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his sister from vacation and told her
that he thought Corey might be trying to

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poison him. He'd gotten sick after
she'd made him a drink, and maybe,

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like, what did she poison him
with? Did she travel right to

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grease with some sort of poison?
On Valentine's Day twenty twenty, Corey made

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Eric a sandwich and put it on
the seat of his truck with a love

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note. He immediately had a reaction
to the sandwich. He broke out in

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hives and was having difficulty breathing.
He used his son's EpiPen and took a

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bena drill. What was able to
stave off the attack. So I don't

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know what she would have put in
the sandwich. I mean, I don't

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know have any knowledge of any allergies
that he had. Yeah, I'm curious

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to you, what would think fentonel
if she had quit fentinel in the sandwich,

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that that would have caused an allergic
reaction. Yeah. So on March

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third, twenty twenty two, after
the kids were down for the night,

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Corey brought Eric a Moscow mule while
he was relaxing in bad They had a

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reason to celebrate. She was about
to close. You're still sipping on yours,

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still hanging in there. Huh.
Yeah, I'm not getting the fentanyl

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yet. I'll be honest with you. I have no idea where I would

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get fentanyl. She was about to
close on a new real estate deal,

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the biggest one of her career.
It was how she couldn't stop thinking about

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a twenty thousand square foot mansion full
of possibilities that had sat unfinished for five

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years. Corey and Eric had many
arguments over this deal. He thought it

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was a risky investment, but according
to Corey, Eric had finally given his

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blessing. According to the charging documents. Corey claimed to have found Eric cold

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and unresponsive when she crawled into bed
around three am. She had returned to

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the primary bedroom after she'd fallen asleep
in one of her son's beds, comforting

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him after a night terror. She
called nine to one one. The dispatcher

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told her to put Eric on the
floor and begin CPR. EMTs arrived at

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three twenty two am. Resuscitation attempts
failed, and Eric was pronounced dead of

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the scene. Corey told law enforcement
that she had left her cell phone charging

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on the bedside table when she went
to attend to her son, but later,

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when her phone was analyzed, it
was determined that it had been locked

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and unlocked several times during the time
that she claimed to have been with her

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son. Movement was also recorded on
the phone, and text messages that were

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sent in the window of time were
deleted from her phone and from the recipient's

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phone as well. Corey told law
enforcement that she had performed CPR and Eric

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when she found him, but I
think this is unlikely because there was blood

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around his mouth that was undisturbed when
the paramedics arrived, and Corey didn't have

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blood on her face. Paramedics asked
to see Eric's medications, but Corey said

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she didn't know where they were because
the maid just left them at random places.

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The autopsy revealed that Eric orally ingested
five times Zelie's lethal dose of illicit

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fentanyl, not medical grade. Authorities
believed the moscow mule was laced with fentanyl,

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which the medical examiner said was ingested
orally. Due to the contents in

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Eric's stomach, the manner of death
was rolled a homicide by the medical examiner.

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One major mistake that was made on
the night of Eric's death is that

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the cup with the moscow mule was
not taken into custody. Corey mentioned to

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investigators that Eric had had a prescription
painkiller addiction in high school, but he

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hadn't had a problem since and never
did hard drugs, but did like the

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occasional THHC gummy. So I know, as in any religion, there are

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like different, you know, different
levels of adherence to the religion, but

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all like a lot of those things
are pretty big no nos in the LDS

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church. I would think THHC gummies
and drinking alcohol. Do you think modern

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day LDS people kind of don't follow
the rules as strictly. Well, I

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think there's a pity is supposed to
have caffeine, right, Yeah, there's

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a range, I know, but
I know like in Utah in particular,

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the people that I knew of the
LDS faith were pretty strict well talk for

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really, because I remember you taking
me like people around the office head diet

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coax all the time. But yeah, but caffeine is one thing, but

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like drinking alcohol or doing THHC would
be another. Can you talk for a

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second about drinking alcohol in Utah?
Drinking alcohol in Utah is difficult, Like

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you would go to the bar.
So, I don't know if it's still

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the same this was. I think
it is at least I don't know ten

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fifteen years ago. But you would
go to a bar and you would have

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to have a membership at the bar
to order a drink. First of all.

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So you'd go to the bar and
you'd be like, oh, could

405
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I have a beer? And they'd
be like, you have to have a

406
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membership. You'd be like, oh, how do I get a membership?

407
00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:21.559
I'd be like, well, you
have to have somebody sponsor you. So

408
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:23.240
you'd have to go to another table
and say, would you sponsor me?

409
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:26.920
And then they'd you'd become a member, but then all the beer is like

410
00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:30.200
low alcohol beer. Also, oh, I don't remember that. Yeah,

411
00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:34.279
we used to go there all the
time, and you like a good sporting

412
00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:37.759
event. I remember you would go
to a bar to watch a sporting event

413
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:41.359
and then you'd be like great okay. In April twenty twenty two, after

414
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:47.000
the autopsy results, police issued a
warrant to search the Briton's home. Corey's

415
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:51.480
phone and several computers were taken from
the home. Communications between Corey and someone

416
00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:56.599
identified as Cel were found during this
time. Cell alleged that Corey first contacted

417
00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:02.960
her via text message to purchase a
hydro code own from her sometime between December

418
00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:07.599
twenty twenty one and January twenty twenty
two, claiming it was for an investor

419
00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:11.119
of hers that had a back injury. Those text messages were later deleted by

420
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:15.920
both parties. CL per Quarry's instructions, delivered the drugs to a property of

421
00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:19.359
Corey's referred to as the Midway House, and left them in the fire pit

422
00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:25.359
where Corey had left cash for CL. About two weeks later, Corey contact

423
00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:29.759
at CL again and said her investor
needed something stronger and specifically asked for the

424
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:36.319
quote strong Michael Jackson's stuff. Fentanyl
is not the Michael Jackson stuff, that's

425
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:41.640
proper. File cl gave Corey fifteen
to thirty ventinyl pills, for which she

426
00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:47.680
paid. Guess how much fifteen to
thirty fentinyl? I have no IDEA hundred

427
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:49.680
dollars, nine hundred dollars, And
it's just kind of weird that she's like

428
00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:52.680
fifteen to thirty. That seems like
such a large range to me. I

429
00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:56.200
don't really know much about fentinyl,
but like, it doesn't take much at

430
00:30:56.200 --> 00:31:00.599
all to do to have a lethal
dose, right, I don't think so

431
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:03.200
either, And I think that's a
that's a really good question and we should

432
00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:08.000
talk to talk about at the end. On February twenty sixth, Corey requested

433
00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:12.440
more fentanyl and another drop was made
at the Midway House for another nine hundred

434
00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:18.880
dollars. Some of the most damaging
evidence against Corey are the Google searches investigators

435
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:22.759
found on her phone, including can
cops uncover deleted messages? What is a

436
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:26.880
lethal dose of fentanyl? Can cops
force you to do a light detector test?

437
00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:33.039
How to lock an I Cloud account
that one's like, she's gonna lock

438
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:34.799
the I Cloud account and nobody can
get Yeah, the police A're gonna be

439
00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:37.839
like, oh, it's locked.
We're not going to try to access that

440
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:42.079
smart How to permanently delete information from
an iPhone remotely? What are you allowed

441
00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:45.640
to take to jail? And Utah, what do cops do when they seize

442
00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:52.480
electronics? Death certificate says pending.
Will life insurance still pay if someone is

443
00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:56.480
poisoned? What does it go down
on the death certificate? As Can the

444
00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:01.640
FBI find deleted messages? Yes they
can? And my personal favorite luxury jails

445
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:07.880
for the rich in America. My
it's interesting that she was googling things about

446
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:12.599
going like what can you take to
jail? And that last one you said

447
00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:15.440
too like she was. I guess
that was her contingency plan is she might

448
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:19.640
go to jail for this, and
I think she knew the evidence was stacked

449
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:23.039
against her. Investigators also found go
bags for Corey and the kids that they

450
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:27.119
needed to leave town suddenly, but
there was also one for Eric, so

451
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:30.000
maybe it's just something that they did
to be ready in case of an emergency.

452
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:35.480
During the search of the house,
no fentanyl was found, but quataya

453
00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:38.200
pine was found, which is a
drug that is used to treat severe depression

454
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:44.599
or schizophrenia. Corey had suffered from
PPD after the birth of her second child,

455
00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:47.920
so maybe it was left over from
that. So what could the motive

456
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:53.599
be? Money? Money? Corey's
personal finances were in dire shape. She's

457
00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:59.480
a classic narcissist and sees yourself as
smarter than everyone else and really wanted to

458
00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:02.799
be seen as an independent, successful, strong businesswoman. At the time of

459
00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:08.079
Eric's death, Corey's personal finances were
grim. She had debts of between this

460
00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:12.039
is a big range, between two
and six million dollars, but I think

461
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:15.720
some of the houses she was flipping
probably had legitimate mortgages, so that might

462
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:21.200
have been in some of the information
I found included in those. She had

463
00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:28.440
defaulted on some loans. Her bank
account was overdrawn by twenty two thousand dollars.

464
00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:32.599
She owed Eric over five hundred thousand
dollars and owed nearly two hundred thousand

465
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:37.839
dollars in back taxes. She was
being fined hundreds of dollars a day for

466
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:40.799
being overdrawn, and some of her
debt was in hard money loans, which

467
00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:46.119
differ from traditional mortgages and are less
forgiving hard money. Lenders are often private

468
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:52.240
individuals or companies that are expecting a
quicker return on investment, and it's potentially

469
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:57.359
a riskier venture for all parties involved. The day before Eric's death, Corey

470
00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:01.200
had been on the phone with irs
and lenders for several hours. Boy,

471
00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:06.720
isn't it It stresses me out when
I hear people talking about their money problems.

472
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:08.880
Yes, I was thinking the same
thing. I'm getting stressed just hearing

473
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:13.440
about all this. I can't even
imagine having that much debt and owing that

474
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:17.159
much money to people and being that
messed up in your finances. We talked

475
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:20.440
a little bit about the Midway house, but I'm going to talk a little

476
00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:23.480
bit more about that. It's an
unfinished mansion, and like I said,

477
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:27.480
it had become an obsession for Corey
and she had to have it at any

478
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:30.320
cost. It's a compound, really, not just a house. Like I

479
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:35.719
said. It's two hundred I'm sorry, twenty thousand square feet with eight bedrooms,

480
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:38.559
twelve bathrooms, a basketball court,
swimming pool, theater room, golf

481
00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:45.039
simulator, rock wall, along with
a three thousand, three hundred square foot

482
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:50.400
guesthouse on a nearly ten acre lot. I'm pretty sure how we're living without

483
00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:52.119
a golf simulator, I know,
I don't know. Even there was a

484
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:57.840
virtual reality room that I forgot to
mention too. The mansion was started in

485
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:01.599
twenty seventeen by Kim and Doug roy
Lance, who were once the top earners

486
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:07.079
at Lula Row. Do you know
what Lula Row is? Lula Row,

487
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:09.960
I think it's still in existence.
Is an mL and clothing company bought the

488
00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:14.639
bottom fell out of the company and
the mansion was never finished. There's a

489
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:20.800
really good documentary on Amazon Prime called
Lula Rich that I recommend. It's like

490
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:24.440
this. It was an obsession for
a lot of ladies. Ath leisure wear

491
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:30.199
and leggings were becoming, you know, pretty common for every woman to wear,

492
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:35.199
and they all had like this unique
pattern like they're only so many of

493
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:38.480
every legging was made with like,
you know, different crazy patterns, like

494
00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:43.159
some would have like hot dogs on
them and some would have flowers or dogs

495
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:45.199
or people were obsessed with them,
and a lot of people made a lot

496
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:52.599
of money, but then things went
so the day after Eric's death, Corey

497
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:57.559
closed down the two million dollar home
and allegedly had a lavish party with friends

498
00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:01.320
while drinking and celebrating. Eric's and
family were surprised by the closing, not

499
00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:05.440
only because of the timing, but
because Eric had made it clear that he

500
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:08.480
was against buying the property and then
told them it was it was not going

501
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:12.840
to happen. But he said the
day after his death, she closed and

502
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:16.239
she had a party. Yes,
And I say allegedly. I found this

503
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:21.480
information from several different sources. But
I say allegedly because I just can't believe

504
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:24.559
that she did death. But I
did read one report where someone said that

505
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:30.960
she was just having like a get
together to remember Eric. So yeah,

506
00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:37.159
very brazen. On March sixth,
two days after Eric's death, Corey hired

507
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:42.320
a locksmith to drill into a safe
up Erics that held between somewhere between one

508
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:45.679
hundred and twenty five thousand to one
hundred and sixty five thousand dollars. Also,

509
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:50.280
Eric had twenty five thousand dollars in
cash on him at the time of

510
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:53.519
his death, so that she just
has money all over the place. It

511
00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:58.760
caused an ugly fight between her and
her sister in law Amy. Amy told

512
00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:00.440
her that she had no right to
open when the safe because it was part

513
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:05.760
of the estate and she no longer
had any rights to it. Corey had

514
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:07.920
no idea what Amy was talking about. She jumped her and punched her in

515
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:12.800
the face and neck. The police
arrived and tried to settle the dispute.

516
00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:16.800
Crystal Bowman Carter, the attorney that
had helped Eric with his new estate plan,

517
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:22.280
was called and she talked to Corey
and confirmed the existence of the new

518
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:27.880
trust. Some of the changes Eric
had made included Corey not being his designated

519
00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:32.119
health care agent should he fall ill
or incapacitated. The trust did provide for

520
00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:36.519
Corey and the children, but Corey
would not be allowed to control the money.

521
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:40.920
Eric's sister and father were his chosen
trustees. The attorney said that during

522
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:46.679
the phone call, Corey became extremely
upset. Her behavior led me to believe

523
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:51.119
that she was learning this for the
first time. The attorney said, Eric

524
00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:54.400
sought to protect the three three sons
he and Corey had together in the long

525
00:37:54.519 --> 00:38:00.840
term by ensuring that Corey would never
be in a position to man his property

526
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:04.920
after his death. So he had
really lost trust in her, and you

527
00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:07.280
knew she was no good at this
point. I mean, he did.

528
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:12.400
It's so sad. I wish he
had left. I wish he had left.

529
00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:15.880
Corey claimed Eric had made these changes
when he was having an affair and

530
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:21.280
he was thinking of divorce, but
they figured things out after a few few

531
00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:25.960
marriage counseling sessions. It's not the
way the law works, right. The

532
00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:29.920
two weeks after Corey closed on the
Midway house, she put it back on

533
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:32.920
the market for a three point seven
to five million dollars so she bought it

534
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:38.599
for two million and then relisted it. It's unclear if she did any work

535
00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:43.400
to the house during this time.
It is currently priced at three point five

536
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:47.960
million dollars, still on the market
well hold On. In an article dated

537
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:52.400
May ninth, it stated the house
was under contract, but I think the

538
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:55.599
deal fell through because it's still listed
for sale. The house is considered an

539
00:38:55.599 --> 00:39:00.760
isosore in the community. It's in
a fairly isolated location, has been sitting

540
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:04.960
on finish for five years. The
address of the house is one oh six

541
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:07.840
North Legacy Way, keep or City, Utah, if you want to look

542
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:14.880
it up on realtor dot com.
And also there's I think I don't know

543
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:19.199
if it's an architect or someone has
like a plan of what the house should

544
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:22.360
look like when it's done, so
I'll post that so you guys can go

545
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:24.880
look at that if you want to. But it's you know, I love

546
00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:29.800
real estate, love looking at houses, can't get enough of it. So

547
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:32.760
I hope if any of you guys
are interested to the house is pretty much

548
00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:39.000
like just a skeleton. Yeah,
like it's all framed in, but there's

549
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:42.719
a little bit of the work on
the on the outside, but the inside

550
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:47.320
is pretty much just studs. Would
I don't know what do you what do

551
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:52.800
you call it? Yeah, studs. To make matters worse, a homeless

552
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:58.639
man died in the house, and
the house now, like the Taivak rap

553
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:01.280
is large's just kind of like wearing
away. It's just kind of flapping in

554
00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:06.960
the breeze. Yeah, a lot
of the windows are broken and it's possibly

555
00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:09.360
infested with rodents. Probably just gonna
end up being torn down at some point,

556
00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:14.599
I guess I think that's what the
community wants. In the days after

557
00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:17.360
Eric's death, Corey posted pictures of
them on Facebook and wrote quote, life

558
00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:22.079
is just so damn hard without you
here. The cards I have been dealt

559
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:27.519
seemed like a game that just can't
be played, and hashtag please come home.

560
00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:30.000
It just didn't it make you just
sick? Yeah? Just oh?

561
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:37.920
I hate these people? Are they
just have such God? What's the word?

562
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:42.480
Yeah? Corey wrote and self published
a book titled Are You with Me?

563
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:45.719
Released on March seventh, twenty twenty
three, a year after Eric's death.

564
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:49.000
Didn't everyone know that she did it? By? I mean, I

565
00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:52.880
know, maybe she hasn't been arrested
or anything, but it seems like obvious

566
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:55.760
that she did it, Like,
it just seems weird that they would let

567
00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:59.679
her publish. I think people were
suspicious. Well. She self published the

568
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:04.440
book Oh Okay. The description on
the book JACKA says it's heartwarming and reassuring.

569
00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:07.719
Written by a loving mother who personally
faced this challenge. This book is

570
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:13.599
designed to offer comfort and solace to
young minds. Are You with Me follows

571
00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:16.000
the story of a child who has
lost their father, but who was reminded

572
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:22.800
that his presence still exists around them, just like an angel watching over them.

573
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:27.000
Corey contact of the local TV show
Good Things, Utah to ask them

574
00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:30.159
to be on the show to promote
her book. She explained to the host

575
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:35.360
that she had devised a tactic that
she called the Three Seased to help her

576
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:40.679
children deal with grief connection, continuity, and care. She also suggested keeping

577
00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:45.360
the deceased spirit alive in the home, like she did with Eric. She

578
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:50.400
told her children that Dad is still
here, it's just in a different way,

579
00:41:50.599 --> 00:41:53.719
even though she had removed all his
belongings and only one picture of him

580
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:58.239
remained in the home after his death. Oh, she is terrible. Here's

581
00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:01.920
a portion of the interview she did
with Good Things Utah. No matter if

582
00:42:01.960 --> 00:42:06.599
it's a parent, a sibling,
or friend, talking about loss with kids

583
00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:09.679
can be a tricky subject. Joining
us now is author of Are You with

584
00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:15.320
Me? Corey Richards, to share
her three c's to helping kids cope with

585
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:19.480
grief. And Corey, I want
to start with your story. What happened

586
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:23.159
in your personal life? So,
my husband passed away unexpectedly last year.

587
00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:29.360
So it's March fourth, was a
one year anniversary for us, and he

588
00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:35.000
was thirty nine. It completely took
us all by shock. And we have

589
00:42:35.039 --> 00:42:38.760
three little boys, ten, nine, and six, and you know,

590
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:43.440
we kind of my kids and I
kind of wrote this book on the different

591
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:50.519
emotions and grieving processes that we've experienced
last year, and you know, hoping

592
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:54.719
that it can kind of help other
kids, you know, deal with this

593
00:42:54.880 --> 00:43:00.440
and kind of you know, fine
happiness some way or another, and to

594
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:06.679
make sense and process I'm sure and
I'm sure you felt that going through and

595
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:09.639
trying to explain it and articulate it
for you and your boys. Yes,

596
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:15.079
exactly, exactly, And so I've
done. You know, I'm new to

597
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:17.440
all of this, so kind of
doing all you know, research and reading

598
00:43:17.480 --> 00:43:22.480
books and things to try and understand
you know, not only how to grieve

599
00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:25.880
as a widow, as a as
a wife, but also you know,

600
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:30.039
with my kids, how to help
them, how to help them understand what

601
00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:32.840
just happened. I hate her even
more. I hate her so much.

602
00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:37.719
I really hate her. We only
played a portion of the interview. You

603
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:43.800
can, I'll post, or you
can always look at our sources. Yeah,

604
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:45.800
you're willing to it in the sources. Yeah, although I can't imagine

605
00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:50.719
anyone wanting to them wanting to see
that. I think it's worth seeing it,

606
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:52.480
just to see the look on her
face, because in my opinion,

607
00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:58.440
she seemed very emotionless and a little
cold. And it's just kind of weird

608
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:00.119
too, because she's going to be
on TV, but she has like this,

609
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:05.760
She's wearing a jacket like a brown
leather jacko with a hood, and

610
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:08.119
she just doesn't look like you know, most people would go on TV and

611
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:13.320
put on makeup and do her hair, and she just looks. She looked

612
00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:15.280
like she had just dropped her kids
off at school and was like, Oh,

613
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:17.519
I'm just gonna go do this interview, and she was trying to look

614
00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:22.480
like the grieving wife. I mean
yeah. At the end end of the

615
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:25.039
interview, the host of Good Things
You Tak called her an amazing mom and

616
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:30.599
woman. But the day after the
broadcast, the host received an anonymous email

617
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:32.880
from from a viewer that said,
you know, she killed her husband,

618
00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:37.960
and messages on Facebook from other concerned
viewers. The host had no idea that

619
00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:44.480
Corey was being investigated for Eric's murder, but after her arrest, they said

620
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:47.639
they felt duped and sickened by Corey. Corey had told them off air that

621
00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:52.480
she thought Eric had died from complications
of COVID because he had an existing lung

622
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:59.400
issue. I couldn't find the book, but the YouTuber plunder read the whole

623
00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:01.800
book, and here's a little bit
of the book that I'm going to read

624
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:06.239
to you. Are you at my
soccer game when I scored that goal for

625
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:08.119
you. I look for you in
the crowd, but you weren't there.

626
00:45:08.599 --> 00:45:13.000
Did you see it? Are you
with me when I blow out my birthday

627
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:16.840
candles to celebrate another year? And
watch over me and grow, teach me

628
00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:22.079
the things and watch me make mistakes? Are you with me on my first

629
00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:25.559
day of school when I'm nervous and
have the butterflies? Will I make friends?

630
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:29.920
Will the teachers be kind? Will
you walk the halls with me that

631
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:32.800
day? It goes on and on. You get the idea? Well,

632
00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:37.039
if I didn't know the context behind
it, I would probably get teary like

633
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:42.920
with that reading. But the knowing
the background it makes me mad. Let

634
00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:45.559
me read the very end to you. I'm here with you every day,

635
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:49.159
every minute, every second. Although
you cannot see me, I am there.

636
00:45:49.480 --> 00:45:52.000
It's me and the wind. It's
me and the chill you feel.

637
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:55.159
It's me feeling as if someone's with
you. I will forever love you,

638
00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:59.360
my sweet baby, until we see
each other again. Yes, I am

639
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:05.079
with you. So it's yeah,
I mean I think it's had her story

640
00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:12.519
been authentic idea, but yeah,
it's just gross. And you, as

641
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:15.840
someone who lost a dad at a
very young age, like doesn't that just

642
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:22.079
fill you with rage that someone would
do this and think it absolutely But another

643
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:27.960
YouTube video from hawk Pro Detailing,
which is so random that this would be

644
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:31.559
connected. But he used to detail
the Richends cars and trucks every three weeks.

645
00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:36.159
I wish I had money to have
cars detailed every three weeks. He

646
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:39.599
said Corey's car was a nightmare,
the worst he'd ever cleaned. He said

647
00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:45.079
they were both very nice and he
really really liked Eric and had a bond

648
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:47.480
with him. He said he thought
they were a nice family and they had

649
00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:52.800
a loving home. Kind of a
weird connection. But he is friends with

650
00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:55.079
one of the hosts from Good Things
Utah. I think he used to be

651
00:46:55.119 --> 00:47:00.320
a broadcaster, but now he's detailing
cars and he's so he's friends with one

652
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:04.800
of them, and she came on
the podcast and she talked about how shocking

653
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:09.440
the situation was to her and how
you she felt. So I couldn't find

654
00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:14.280
a copy of the book because it
has been removed from Amazon dot Com and

655
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:19.840
other sellers. The book was dedicated
to quote my amazing husband and wonderful father.

656
00:47:21.079 --> 00:47:24.440
Someone on Reddit founder of you that
Corey wrote online for a ghostwriting and

657
00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:30.960
publishing company, So it's questionable as
to how if she and her boy yeah,

658
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:32.880
because she was saying, oh,
you know, I wrote it along

659
00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:39.119
with my boys. According to Corey's
interview on KPCW radio, she planned on

660
00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:44.760
writing sequels to the book. The
next book was going to be called Mom,

661
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:47.400
How Far Away Is Heaven? As
well as a book for girls struggling

662
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:52.800
with grief and a book for husbands
who have lost their wives. So if

663
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:57.239
she had her whole turned it into
a whole big thing. On May eighth,

664
00:47:57.360 --> 00:48:01.000
twenty twenty three, fourteen months or
Eric's death, Corey was arrested and

665
00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:06.280
charged with aggravated murder and three counts
of possession of a controlled substance with intent

666
00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:12.599
to distribute, including GHB or the
date rape jug, hydrocodone, and fentanyl.

667
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:16.599
Corey purchased schedule one in two drugs
three times in twenty twenty two that

668
00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:21.599
are known once in January and twice
in February on the eleventh and the twenty

669
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:25.719
sixth. Aggravated and murder in Utah
is the only capital offense, meaning it

670
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:31.119
is a death penalty crime, and
Utah murder and aggravated murder are the classifications

671
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:36.679
for murder, unlike other states that
use first and second degree murder. Aggravated

672
00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:40.880
murder is punishable by death or life
imprisonment. If the death penalty is sought,

673
00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:45.239
it is a capital felony. Otherwise
it is a first degree felony.

674
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:50.239
Twenty four states in the US allow
the death penalty, and twenty three states

675
00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:54.880
have abolished capital punishment. Three states
currently have a governor mandated moratorium on the

676
00:48:54.920 --> 00:49:00.880
death penalty, California, Ohio,
and Pennsylvania. Always liked to give you

677
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:05.719
those extra little Yeah, I learned
so much from your episodes. I was

678
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:08.000
just gonna say, it seems like
it took a while to arrest her too,

679
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:10.800
Like it seemed like a bit of
an open and shut case. But

680
00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:14.599
I know they take time to make
sure they have all their ducks in row

681
00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:17.159
before they arrest somebody for something that's
serious. Well, let's put a pin

682
00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:22.400
in that and revisit that at the
end. Okay. Cl has been identified

683
00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:27.440
as Carmen Marie Lawber, fifty one, who came forward and is cooperating with

684
00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:30.320
police. She was currently on probation
for previous drug charges, including a twenty

685
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:36.480
twenty one charge of possession of a
controlled substance with intent to distribute and possession

686
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:40.559
of drug paraphernalia. She previously worked
for Corey cleaning homes from her real estate

687
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:45.920
business. Prior to her involvement with
Corey, authorities had had her on the

688
00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:51.440
radar for other drug crimes. Court
records also indicate that Corey purchased one thousand,

689
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:55.360
three hundred dollars of fentonel on March
ninth, five days after Eric's death,

690
00:49:55.760 --> 00:50:00.480
begging the question if Corey could have
an addiction issue. Lauber has not

691
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:05.039
been charged or arrested in connection to
her dealings with Corey, but is scheduled

692
00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:09.239
to appear in court in August so
any Dano. On May twelfth, twenty

693
00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:14.519
twenty three, during a bail hearing, the judge denied Corey bail because of

694
00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:19.039
the severity of her crime, the
substantial evidence against her, and the drug

695
00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:23.239
charges. Corey filed a lawsuit in
June disputing Eric's will. She claims the

696
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:29.320
estate rightfully belongs to her and accuses
Eric of trying to defraud her by taking

697
00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:32.920
legal action to shield his property and
businesses from her without her knowledge. She

698
00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:38.519
issuing to remove Katie Richard Spenson as
trustee, arguing the prenuptial agreement she signed

699
00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:44.599
in twenty thirteen and titles to her
to his assets because he died and they

700
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:51.360
weren't divorced, or Corey such a
victim she truly is. But Corey is

701
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:54.920
being sued by Eric's estate and a
civil suit filed on June twenty seven for

702
00:50:55.119 --> 00:51:00.679
thirteen million dollars in damages. The
lawsuit is seeking half the equity from the

703
00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:05.039
sale of the Richn's nearly two million
dollars home, two million dollars from the

704
00:51:05.079 --> 00:51:08.760
proceeds from the sale of Eric's half
of the stonemasonry business and all of his

705
00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:14.480
personal property, and more. The
lawsuit wants to stop the publication of Corey's

706
00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:16.840
book and for any proceeds from the
book to be turned over to the estate.

707
00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:22.639
Eric's family believes his murder was financially
motivated and they don't believe that Corey

708
00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:27.760
should have any right to his estate
yea, Corey's defense insists that there is

709
00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:30.840
no proof that their client gave her
husband the lethal dosa fentanyl, and the

710
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:36.480
drug was found nowhere in the home. Corey's attorney also argued that the financial

711
00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:39.400
issues weren't enough of a motive to
kill Eric, and it's not illegal to

712
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:44.480
withdraw money from his accounts, as
her name was on the account and there

713
00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:49.320
was no evidence that she was the
one who changed the insurance beneficiary. Quote.

714
00:51:49.639 --> 00:51:53.480
Law enforcement never identified or seized any
fentanyl or other illicit drugs from the

715
00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:59.719
family home. The state has provided
no evidence that there was fentinyl found in

716
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:04.079
the home, nor have they provided
any evidence that Corey gave Eric the fentinel

717
00:52:04.159 --> 00:52:08.119
at issue. End quote. The
defense also attempted to portray Eric as a

718
00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:15.519
partier. Richard's family spokesperson Greg Scourtis
said that the family is very happy charges

719
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:20.440
were filed and they were hopeful justice
will be served. Quote. They have

720
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:22.920
three boys, three young boys,
and I think Eric, being so involved

721
00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:28.599
in their lives as a soccer coach, baseball coach, basketball coach, wanted

722
00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:30.800
to keep the family together. Eric
was a good father. He was a

723
00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:35.440
philanthropist. He cared about a lot
of people. He did the best he

724
00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:38.920
could to make the most of his
marriage. There are three reasons Eric stayed.

725
00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:42.880
One is ten years old, one
is nine, and the third is

726
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:46.159
six. He lived for his three
boys, and unfortunately he died for them

727
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:52.920
too. And quote. Scourtis also
mentioned that Eric believed Corey had had a

728
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:57.800
long term affair throughout most of their
marriage. At the bail hearing, the

729
00:52:57.880 --> 00:53:04.360
judge allowed victim impact statements to be
Amy Ritchins gave a powerful and lengthy testimony.

730
00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:07.960
It's long but important. We're going
to play a clip of it.

731
00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:14.280
Eric died under her endous circumstances.
I am tormented at the thought of what

732
00:53:14.360 --> 00:53:17.400
he endured. I play it out
in my mind. I go through the

733
00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:22.840
terrible sequence of events. I wonder
when he realized he was in mortal danger.

734
00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:27.360
I wonder what Corey may have said
to him in his last moments.

735
00:53:28.079 --> 00:53:32.239
How long was he conscious knowing he
would die? Where were Eric's boys when

736
00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:37.639
all this happened. Did they hear
Eric's body fall to the ground. Did

737
00:53:37.639 --> 00:53:40.480
they catch a glimpse of their father
taking his last breath? It's torture to

738
00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:45.639
think of why did Eric lose his
life? Why did the boys lose their

739
00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:51.400
father? Was it because of Corey's
greed and desire to get life insurance and

740
00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:55.679
other assets? If so, that
is abhorrent. How could anyone value life

741
00:53:55.800 --> 00:54:00.719
human life so cheaply. I cannot
comprehend it. I'm overflowing with grief,

742
00:54:01.079 --> 00:54:05.159
grief and pain. At the thought
that Eric meant so little to her.

743
00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:08.840
If Eric had died because of an
illness, he would have been cared for.

744
00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:15.159
He could have looked after him and
been with him. If he had

745
00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:19.039
died because of an accident, people
would have tried to help. There would

746
00:54:19.039 --> 00:54:23.159
have been kindness. But there's no
comfort to be had here. There's no

747
00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:29.280
consoling thought in the way Eric died
in his last moments after being intentionally poisoned,

748
00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:34.199
he was faced with betrayal and terror. The thought of it is unbearable.

749
00:54:34.719 --> 00:54:37.239
I am haunted by the horror of
it. This last year has been

750
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:43.599
a living hell for our family.
We have watched as Corey has paraded around

751
00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:47.960
portraying herself a living window widow and
victim while trying to profit from the death

752
00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:53.079
of my brother, both by trying
to profit from a book about his death

753
00:54:53.320 --> 00:54:58.639
and trying to get life insurance and
assets that should go exactly where Eric wanted

754
00:54:58.679 --> 00:55:05.280
them to to boys. Immediately after
Eric was killed, Corey told us she

755
00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:07.519
could not help us get anything ready
for the funeral, as she was too

756
00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:13.119
distraught with grief. We shortly found
out that was not true at all.

757
00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:17.119
In fact, she pulled herself together
enough to go close on the purchase of

758
00:55:17.159 --> 00:55:22.760
a two million dollar home. Hire
a real estate agent, Hire an architect

759
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:25.440
to create cab drawings of the home. Hire a lawyer in order to file

760
00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:30.400
a lawsuit on Eric's trust. Hire
a locksmith to come break into and clean

761
00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:36.760
out my brother's safe, and attempt
to have Eric cremated. She mustered out

762
00:55:36.760 --> 00:55:39.079
the strength and resolved to do most
of this within forty eight hours of his

763
00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:46.440
death. Corey assaulted me. I
will never forget the look in her eyes

764
00:55:47.000 --> 00:55:52.199
when she attacked me that Sunday morning. It was early and had been snowing

765
00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:55.480
most of the night. I was
just getting ready to leave and heading out

766
00:55:55.519 --> 00:56:00.360
to the car when I saw a
locksmith and Eric's detached girl starting to drill

767
00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:06.599
out his gun safe. I asked
Corey multiple times why we could not just

768
00:56:06.679 --> 00:56:10.599
call my dad for the code.
I could not understand why she was breaking

769
00:56:10.599 --> 00:56:15.440
into and ruining Eric's safe. To
this, she screamed at me at the

770
00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:19.719
top of her lungs, called me
some inappropriate things I cannot share with you

771
00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:24.000
here, and then told me to
get out of her house. It was

772
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:27.880
then that I told her that she
could not kick me out of my brother's

773
00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:31.920
house. My sister Katie was now
the executor of Eric's trust and estate,

774
00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:37.639
and just like Eric, she would
not want the defendant breaking into his gun

775
00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:44.360
safe. Corey looked at me with
pure hatred and rage. I was messing

776
00:56:44.440 --> 00:56:47.480
up her plan. I was getting
in her way, and because of that,

777
00:56:47.559 --> 00:56:52.199
she attacked me. She punched me
in the face and neck multiple times.

778
00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:58.800
It took four people to pull her
off me. That day before the

779
00:56:58.880 --> 00:57:02.199
funeral funeral, Corey opened a bank
account and asked everyone that was grieving to

780
00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:07.880
send her money instead of sending the
family cards and flowers. It was not

781
00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:12.039
even two weeks after Eric's passing that
we were told she had taken down all

782
00:57:12.039 --> 00:57:15.559
but one photo of my brother and
removed all his clothing from the house.

783
00:57:16.159 --> 00:57:21.639
Corey put together a golf tournament in
Eric's name two months after his death,

784
00:57:22.239 --> 00:57:25.039
on what would have been his fortieth
birthday, and told his family all of

785
00:57:25.159 --> 00:57:31.440
us that we were not allowed to
attend. Since Eric's death, it has

786
00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:37.719
come to our attention that Corey took
out multiple life insurance policies on Eric without

787
00:57:37.719 --> 00:57:42.679
his knowledge. It appears that she
forged his signature on various documents, assigned

788
00:57:42.679 --> 00:57:47.119
herself as Eric's durable power of attorney, inappropriately diverted money from his business to

789
00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:52.360
herself, and assigned herself as beneficiary
of Eric's portion of our mother's retirement account.

790
00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:59.679
I should also not forget to mention
the multiple life insurances she has taken

791
00:57:59.719 --> 00:58:07.239
out on the boys. Her most
recent business venture was offering a children's book

792
00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:10.280
about how to help grieving children cope
with the loss of the death of a

793
00:58:10.360 --> 00:58:15.639
parent. In this book, she
had the audacity to use the boy's real

794
00:58:15.760 --> 00:58:22.079
names and even use their last family
portrait. Her behavior gives me great concern,

795
00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:25.039
as she has exploited the boys for
money and will likely do so again.

796
00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:31.679
In addition, Corey has weaponized Eric's
children, manipulating my dad to do

797
00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:37.000
or not do things by threatening to
come in to cut him out of their

798
00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:42.599
lives if he did not capitulate to
her demands. She similarly deprived the boys

799
00:58:42.639 --> 00:58:46.440
of contact with myself, my sister, and her daughters unless we agreed to

800
00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:52.079
give her the money and Eric's trust
money that Eric wanted to go to his

801
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:57.760
three children. Well, it is
powerful. I know it was really long,

802
00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:00.719
but and we that actually is edited
it. But yeah, I thought

803
00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:07.000
her words were very powerful. Yeah, so I watched that clip, and

804
00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:09.320
the thing that struck me is she
looked like she was trying really hard to

805
00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:13.239
cry, like she had a tissue
and she was like poking at her eye

806
00:59:13.239 --> 00:59:16.840
with the tissue, but her eyes
were completely dry. She did not come

807
00:59:16.880 --> 00:59:22.639
across as the most authentic victim.
Amy closed with I never thought evil like

808
00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:29.079
this existed. In July, the
Richin's family filed another civil suit, this

809
00:59:29.119 --> 00:59:35.079
time against Corey's mom, Lisa Darden, and brother Rooney Darden. They alleged

810
00:59:35.119 --> 00:59:38.119
the Dardens are parties to a scheme
devised by Corey to to fraud and siphon

811
00:59:38.199 --> 00:59:44.440
assets away from her brother's estate.
Any assets that were owned by kay Richen's

812
00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:47.880
realty are now owned by Eric's estate. The deed to the house that Lisa

813
00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:52.559
Darden lives in was owned by kay
Richin's realty. The Dardens recently changed the

814
00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:58.559
name on the deed from kay Richen's
realty to Lisa Darden. The latest court

815
00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:04.239
documents claimed the property answer isn't valid
and accuses Corey, Lisa, and Rooney

816
01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:09.119
of civil conspiracy. Rooney claims that
Corey gave him the power of attorney to

817
01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:14.119
do business on her behalf while she
is in prison. He said they have

818
01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:17.480
no right to take his mother's house
and called the Richand's family narcissistic and greedy.

819
01:00:19.719 --> 01:00:22.400
Corey has remained in the Summit County
Jail since her arrest in May.

820
01:00:23.079 --> 01:00:29.880
Her next hearing is on September First. The boys reside with Carrie with Katie,

821
01:00:30.039 --> 01:00:34.920
Eric's sister. So that's pretty devastating. Huh, yeah, the whole

822
01:00:34.920 --> 01:00:37.159
thing, it's always, it's just
messy. I was just going to talk

823
01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:42.559
about fentanel for a second. Medical
grade. Fentanyl is prescribed for chronic pain,

824
01:00:43.079 --> 01:00:45.840
severe cancer pain, nerve damage,
back injury, major trauma, and

825
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:52.559
surgery. It's fifty to one hundred
times more potent than morphine. Illicit fentanel

826
01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:55.920
is being used to make counterfeit prescription
pills, and, as common in street

827
01:00:55.960 --> 01:01:01.000
drugs like cocaine, MDMA and heroin, often mixed with other drugs with or

828
01:01:01.039 --> 01:01:07.719
without the user's knowledge to increase its
euphoric effects. Fentanyl, the fentanyl category

829
01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:10.679
of opioids, accounted for six sixty
seven thousand, two hundred and thirty five

830
01:01:12.199 --> 01:01:17.519
preventable deaths in twenty twenty one,
representing a twenty six percent increase in twenty

831
01:01:17.559 --> 01:01:22.920
twenty, and I think it's just
has continued to become you know, even

832
01:01:23.239 --> 01:01:29.360
yeah, agreed, a percentage of
drugs just so horrible. It's like if

833
01:01:29.360 --> 01:01:31.960
you buy you buy drugs on the
street, you're just basically rolling the dice

834
01:01:32.039 --> 01:01:37.719
and you know, potentially dying from
it. Countries seing your Lukebell, Prince

835
01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:44.559
Coolio, actor Michael Kay Williams,
and rapper Dmax all died from fentanyl overdoses.

836
01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:47.079
And remember a couple you might remember
this, but a couple of weeks

837
01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:50.760
ago, I was telling you about
this, like when I was researching fentanyl,

838
01:01:50.920 --> 01:01:54.239
and I mean not that our kids
are doing all these illicit street drugs,

839
01:01:54.320 --> 01:01:58.960
but it makes me nervous that you
just don't know whether fentanyl is in

840
01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:01.440
your drugs or not. So I
just did a little research, like how

841
01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:07.519
can you tele fentanyl is in your
drugs? And you can buy these test

842
01:02:07.559 --> 01:02:14.800
strips, but in order to activate
the test strips, it says that there

843
01:02:14.800 --> 01:02:17.960
are three ways to test your drugs. Dissolve all the drugs you plan on

844
01:02:19.079 --> 01:02:22.559
using in water by following the instructions. So you have to, like,

845
01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:25.039
you know, if you have cocaine, you have to you know, dissolve

846
01:02:25.079 --> 01:02:29.119
it in the water and then the
purpose of having the cocaine if you're yeah,

847
01:02:29.320 --> 01:02:31.679
it's just nuts to me. Well, you can take a smaller portion

848
01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:37.840
of your drugs and use the strips. But that's scary. It's it's very

849
01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:43.000
it's very scary. So yeah,
that's that's the story of Eric and Corey

850
01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:45.639
Richards. Rest in peace, Eric, because that just sucks. Who was

851
01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:47.320
thirty nine years old? He has
three beautiful little kids. Sounds like a

852
01:02:47.400 --> 01:02:53.519
fabulous right, And yeah, it's
just disgusting. Yeah, how much money

853
01:02:53.559 --> 01:02:59.239
do people need? I know,
A horrible thing. Yeah, it's so.

854
01:02:59.320 --> 01:03:00.840
Do you think Corey thought she was
in the clear because it had been

855
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:04.960
a year. I don't know.
I mean, I don't know how she

856
01:03:05.039 --> 01:03:07.199
thought she was going to get away
with it. She's obviously not very bright

857
01:03:07.239 --> 01:03:12.760
because she left a pretty strong trail
of evidence against her. So I don't

858
01:03:12.800 --> 01:03:15.920
know. It just boggles my mind. I guess the Richards family, they

859
01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:22.320
just seem like such a strong family, and I just think they seem they

860
01:03:22.360 --> 01:03:24.400
love Derek so much and they're willing
to do anything to keep his memory alive

861
01:03:24.440 --> 01:03:29.039
and to protect his kids. Yeah, so you mentioned she'll she has a

862
01:03:29.119 --> 01:03:31.199
next hearing in September, But do
we know when the actual trial is.

863
01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:35.239
No, we won't that until the
next hearing, which I was going to

864
01:03:35.559 --> 01:03:38.119
put off this case until September.
There could be another year though, you

865
01:03:38.159 --> 01:03:43.440
never know. Yeah, so we
will definitely keep you updated. But I'm

866
01:03:43.440 --> 01:03:46.400
wondering if she's going to get pleated
down because I don't think there's actually a

867
01:03:46.480 --> 01:03:51.679
ton of evidence. I don't think, So what do you think there is?

868
01:03:52.440 --> 01:03:53.320
I don't know. I mean,
it just seems pretty obvious. Maybe

869
01:03:53.320 --> 01:03:58.280
there's not a ton of like forensic
evidence, but you know, they've got

870
01:03:58.320 --> 01:04:00.840
all her Google searches. I don't
know. The whole thing just seems pretty

871
01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:05.119
open and shut to me, like
they have the contents of his stomach,

872
01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:10.920
the fentinel and the Moscow mule and
everything. How else would it have gotten

873
01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:14.639
there. I don't know that they've
got her transactions with this cl person.

874
01:04:15.480 --> 01:04:18.239
It just seems pretty straightforward. I
agree with you, and I hope she's

875
01:04:18.360 --> 01:04:21.519
gosh. I hope she's convicted,
But it also seems like a lot of

876
01:04:21.519 --> 01:04:26.760
that is circumstantial. Yeah, but
people get convicted on circumstantial cases all the

877
01:04:26.800 --> 01:04:30.280
time. True, was Corey having
an affair on her. She had a

878
01:04:30.320 --> 01:04:36.320
Pinterest board and she had like a
bunch of like recent wedding dresses saved m

879
01:04:38.920 --> 01:04:42.880
like she was thinking of buying a
wedding dress something like yeah, yeah.

880
01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:46.039
She had a tap called weddings.
This I could not find. I think

881
01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:48.320
I might have seen this. Sometimes
I see things on Reddit and I like

882
01:04:48.360 --> 01:04:51.400
to mention them, but also mention
them with it's don't take it as fact.

883
01:04:51.639 --> 01:04:58.960
But Corey pushed to have his body
cremated right away, So I think

884
01:04:58.960 --> 01:05:00.760
that's all I have for you.
In this case. We did want to

885
01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:06.880
mention that there were some differing information
on the case. Most of the information

886
01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:11.519
I got was from court documents,
but even in the court documents, there

887
01:05:11.519 --> 01:05:15.440
were some discrepancies, like he might
have had a THHC gummy and a shot

888
01:05:15.480 --> 01:05:20.079
of alcohol the night of his death, and also on Valentine's Day, there

889
01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:25.639
were differing reports. Some said that
he got sick from a sandwich she gave

890
01:05:25.719 --> 01:05:30.480
him, and some said that they
had a romantic dinner at their house for

891
01:05:30.519 --> 01:05:33.760
the two of them and he was
sick after that dinner. So okay,

892
01:05:34.320 --> 01:05:38.519
I know none of them change the
outcome. It's just sometimes you'll hear different

893
01:05:38.559 --> 01:05:41.840
stories, and I just, yeah, well, a good job researching the

894
01:05:41.880 --> 01:05:45.719
case. Interesting case. And uh
yeah a hater, a hater. She's

895
01:05:45.760 --> 01:05:49.599
horrible. And she's so young too. Yeah, I just I'll never understand

896
01:05:49.639 --> 01:05:55.760
that level of greed that causes you
to kill someone just basically for money doesn't

897
01:05:55.800 --> 01:06:00.480
make any sense. And the parading
around as a widow, and and oh,

898
01:06:00.519 --> 01:06:02.760
I'm so sad for my children,
and you did this to your children,

899
01:06:02.840 --> 01:06:05.280
right, and then getting rid of
all of his stuff and all the

900
01:06:05.440 --> 01:06:10.639
you know, photos and everything just
that it's just the whole thing's horrible.

901
01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:15.480
Yeah, it's as usual as usual. Well, we'll keep you updated on

902
01:06:15.519 --> 01:06:19.840
this case with any new information that
we find or any new court hearings.

903
01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:24.199
But yeah, I hope she goes
to jail for a long long time.

904
01:06:24.239 --> 01:06:27.760
And I hope her kids are okay, thinking about those poor they're so young

905
01:06:27.920 --> 01:06:30.000
and their dad was so involved in
their lives. But the Richards family does

906
01:06:30.039 --> 01:06:35.320
seem like a really hopefully strong family, big family. Yeah, it's hard,

907
01:06:35.840 --> 01:06:39.199
it is. Yeah, Well,
thank you again, great job,

908
01:06:39.639 --> 01:06:42.800
thank you for listening, Thank you
all for listening. Yeah, we appreciate

909
01:06:43.239 --> 01:06:46.480
all of you. And that cookie
was good, and the cookie was it

910
01:06:46.519 --> 01:06:48.960
was really going to post the recipe
and you made it to the end of

911
01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:54.400
the episode I did. Yeah,
Moscow Mule didn't seem to impact me too

912
01:06:54.480 --> 01:06:58.480
much. No, obviously, I
would never, ever, ever, ever,

913
01:06:58.559 --> 01:07:01.079
ever do anything. I didn't even
hesitate to drink it. Well,

914
01:07:01.119 --> 01:07:05.800
you didn't know until we started drinking
it. That was pretty funny though.

915
01:07:08.199 --> 01:07:10.800
Well, thank you all. Well, actually I wanted to mention to thank

916
01:07:10.840 --> 01:07:13.000
you all. We're always going to
say thank you all for listening. Of

917
01:07:13.079 --> 01:07:15.159
course, we always are so grateful, but we had our biggest week ever

918
01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:20.800
on our podcast recently and just yeah, it's awesome. Thank you so much.

919
01:07:21.079 --> 01:07:25.000
Things are going well and we owe
it to all of you. I

920
01:07:25.039 --> 01:07:29.800
also wanted to say that we haven't
done a bonus episode in a while because

921
01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:32.639
we're living our life. Life has
been pretty busy. It's been busy,

922
01:07:32.760 --> 01:07:39.360
so yeah, we might probably we're
probably not going to have a bonus episode.

923
01:07:39.559 --> 01:07:42.159
That's because you were proud, But
no, we probably won't for a

924
01:07:42.159 --> 01:07:46.239
while because our kids are still here
and vacation coming up in a couple of

925
01:07:46.239 --> 01:07:48.440
weeks. Yeah, when you're listening, as you're listening to this, we're

926
01:07:48.480 --> 01:07:51.679
probably going to be taking a little
four or five day break. Yeah,

927
01:07:51.920 --> 01:07:56.840
pretty exciting, very exciting. I
can't wait. We have some We're coming

928
01:07:56.920 --> 01:08:01.760
up on our one year anniversary and
we'll have some exciting things planned. Yeah

929
01:08:01.960 --> 01:08:05.760
you sound well. I would just
say, like a lot of work to

930
01:08:05.800 --> 01:08:08.880
do, and I'm like, we
have things planned, but we need to

931
01:08:08.880 --> 01:08:13.679
start. It's yeah, we're having
a hard sometimes time management. It's hard.

932
01:08:14.039 --> 01:08:16.079
It can be hard, but yeah, yeah one year it's pretty exciting.

933
01:08:16.720 --> 01:08:21.479
And we have every Monday we have
I believe we have not I'm not

934
01:08:21.520 --> 01:08:26.720
missed. So I'm really proud of
that because sometimes, like I said,

935
01:08:26.840 --> 01:08:30.039
time is hard. Yep, for
sure. Okay, well this has been

936
01:08:30.039 --> 01:08:31.840
a fascinating chat. But thank you
so all so much for listening. Like

937
01:08:31.880 --> 01:08:36.840
we said, follow us on Instagram, Facebook, leave us a review Twitter.

938
01:08:38.600 --> 01:08:41.560
I just found something called good Pods
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939
01:08:41.680 --> 01:08:45.079
even existed, and it's like where
people review podcasts. It's kind of like

940
01:08:45.119 --> 01:08:48.000
good Reads for podcasts. Oh yeah, you mentioned that, and we don't

941
01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:51.800
have any reviews. So if someone
could take pity on us and give us

942
01:08:51.800 --> 01:08:57.479
a couple of reviews on good Pods, positive reviews, that would be awesome.

943
01:08:57.920 --> 01:09:00.000
Yeah, for sure. Email us
at love Mary kill at gmail dot

944
01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:03.159
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you. I do love to hear from

945
01:09:03.159 --> 01:09:06.279
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946
01:09:06.359 --> 01:09:11.920
have taken the time to message us, either via email or DMS on our

947
01:09:11.960 --> 01:09:15.359
social media. I mean so much. Tells me you're so just your words

948
01:09:15.359 --> 01:09:19.439
are so lovely and kind and very
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949
01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:23.479
like write us a short email.
It's just, it's so nice. It

950
01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:25.159
is so nice. And sometimes you
were like, oh, I know you

951
01:09:25.199 --> 01:09:29.880
guys are busy. I mean,
we always yes, but we'd love to

952
01:09:29.880 --> 01:09:31.520
hear from you guys, so we
always have time for that. All right,

953
01:09:31.560 --> 01:09:34.680
Well, until next time, don't
kill your husband and don't kill your

954
01:09:34.680 --> 01:10:12.359
wife. Be be be the