June 22, 2026

Lina and Adam Kaufman

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When 33-year-old Eleonora “Lina” Kaufman was found unresponsive with marks across her neck on her bathroom floor in Aventura, Florida, her sudden death shocked her community. Her husband, Adam Kaufman, claimed it was a tragic medical emergency. But as investigators secured the home, the physical evidence—from an engine block inexplicably radiating heat in the garage to unwrinkled pillows on the bed—just didn’t add up.

Eighteen months later, the medical examiner ruled Lina's death a homicide by mechanical asphyxiation, leading to Adam's arrest. What followed was a sensational legal battle pitting top forensic experts against one another over compromised DNA evidence, cryptic jailhouse phone calls, and a jury forced to choose between a cold-blooded murder and a tragic medical anomaly.

Today’s snack: Oreo BTS Brown Sugar Pancake flavor and Stuf of Doom flavor

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Sources:

  • Trial Florida v. Adam Kaufman. Circuit Court of the 11th Judicial Circuit, Miami-Dade County, Florida. May–June 2012. Court TV, https://www.courttv.com/trials/florida-v-adam-kaufman-2009/.
  • ABC News Sechrist, Adam. "Adam Kaufman Trial: Detectives Handling Case Had Affair." ABC News, 18 May 2012.
  • CBS News Glynn, Casey. "South Fla. developer Adam Kaufman acquitted in wife's 2007 death." CBS News, 6 June 2012.
  • CBS News Moriarty, Erin. "'48 Hours' preview: When a murder suspect has an identical twin, solving the case can be doubly tricky." CBS News, 22 June 2013.
  • CBS Miami "Not Guilty Verdict For Aventura Developer Accused In Wife's Death." CBS Miami, 5 June 2012.
  • CBS Miami "Surgeon Testifies Lina Kaufman Was Healthy." CBS Miami, 15 May 2012.
  • CBS Press Release "‘48 HOURS: LINA'S HEART’ – WOULD A TWIN KNOW IF HIS BROTHER WAS A KILLER?" Paramount Press Express / CBS Entertainment, 25 Oct. 2012.
  • Court TV "FL v. Adam Kaufman: Spray Tan Murder Trial." Court TV.
  • The Cinemaholic Sengupta, Sounak. "Adam Kaufman: Where is Lina Kaufman's Husband Now?" The Cinemaholic, 14 Apr. 2023.
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Hi, I'm Rich and I'm Tina.

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If there's one thing we've learned and over twenty years of.

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Marriage, it's that some days you'll feel like killing your husband.

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And some days you'll feel like killing your wife.

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Welcome to love, Mary Kill Hey Dina, Hey Rich.

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How are you today?

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I am good. How are you?

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I'm doing good.

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Actually I'm having some allergies today, but otherwise I'm great.

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Are you feeling well rested?

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Well?

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I did just take a nap.

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I'm a little jealous you accused me of taking a nap.

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Well, your hair was a little old. Your hair is

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always perfect, Rich, You're literally the most consistent person in

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the world. You always look handsome every day. Your hair

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is always perfectly quaffed. And it was just a little

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askew on the site. And we had said, oh, we'll

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record it too, and I was like, okay, I'll take

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a little nap. The same Judy too. It was funny

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because I was I had fallen asleep and Clover was

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with me, and she was like meowing, trying to wake

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me up because she wanted some attention. And because I'm

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a mom, I'm able to, like you know, filter out

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noises like that. But then she kept touching my toe

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try to wake me up, and it worked. It worked.

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Clover gets to decide who gets to sleep and when

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they get.

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To sleep, she sure does.

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I just saw a news report about a person that

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thought they want one hundred thousand dollars in the lottery

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and it was in Indiana, and it was a scratch

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off ticket. It's like a Space Invaders type of thing.

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And the thing came up and said, you want one

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hundred thousand dollars and they took it in and the

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lottery people said, oh, sorry, that was a mistake. That

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was a glitch. And it turns out a lot of people,

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I guess, had that same glitch, which is just kind

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of outrageous.

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I used to know a lawsuit coming. I hope there's

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a lawsuit coming right too.

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Yeah.

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I used to work at a grocery store and I

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worked behind the customer service desk and I sold tickets

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and people would stand there for like an hour and

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just chat and scratch their tickets. And I don't know

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if I've ever even bought one, but it just seems like.

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You bought one once and you gave it to me

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for Christmas.

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Do you remember that it wasn't an actual lottery chicken, though.

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I still that was the cruelest prank you've ever.

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Played, or one could say, the best break. I didn't

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feel really bad because you were so excited.

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I was in shock. I was like, I was in disbelief.

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I remember like, I think, I'm not sure, but I

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think this way, and I can't remember how much it was,

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but it was like one hundred thousand dollars yet yeah, yeah, oh.

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That was bad. But before we get started, I wanted

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to give some shout outs to some of our listeners,

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Elias who sent us a bunch of cherry chip cake mixes.

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She also sent some almond roca which I think I

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hid from you, but it was delicious. That was so kind,

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Thank you so much. And it happened to be Emma's

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birthday a couple of weeks ago, so made that cherry chipcake.

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And then also some people have left us some voicemails

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yeah on our website and that was really sweet too.

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And one of the people with Cindy and Cindy has

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been a longtime listener and in her message she said,

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I know you guys are too busy to answer my messages,

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so I try not to message you anymore. We always

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have time for you guys. So Cindy, thank you so much.

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That was such a sweet message and you can message

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us anytime. And the other one was from Michell and

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she's also just a really great person who we always

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love to hear from.

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Yeah. I really love the fact that people can leave

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us voicemails on our website, which is Lovemarykill dot com

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because it's so nice to hear your voices. Yeah too,

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So that's pretty cool.

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You guys are the best. We really appreciate your support.

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Speaking of our kind listeners, somebody on Reddit made a

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comment about us the other day. It was on a

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thread that was about Murder with My Husband, which is

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another podcast that features a husband and wife.

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Who is fonentially more profitable.

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I was going to say slightly more well know, and

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then we are, but yeah, probably exponentially. But it was

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a very We always appreciate it. We people leave comments

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and Reddit and recommend us. But I was a little

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bit offended because the person said they're well, they're a

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cute husband and wife pair, which is nice. Then they

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said she gets him a snack for every pot. I'm like,

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I bring you a snack.

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Yeah. When I researched, they bring plenty of snacks for sure.

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Yeah, I just want to make sure that's clear.

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There was somewhere someone said they're kind of funny, which

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made me laugh because our goal, honestly isn't to be funny,

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because I feel like true crime and humor. We try

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to be a little you know, cute and break the

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ice and are open and our clothes.

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But we you know, kind of funny is great. I'll

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totally take it.

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Any Reddit comment is awesome. We really appreciate it. Well,

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today's snack hungry? Okay, Well, I was said, I'm I'm

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really hungry girl. I know you hate when I call

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you girl. I hate I'm really hungry.

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Bro Okay, bro, Well, today's snack. I owe to our

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brother in law. My brother. Is he your brother in

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law or my or both?

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Consider I love Steve. I think he's my brother in law.

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Okay, I just don't know how that technicy, I know

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it is. But anyway, he sent me a message the

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other day and he said, look, these look pretty interesting.

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So I went and got them, and I got a

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couple of flavors of oreos. As we know, the Oreo

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people have gone crazy and I got you the Oreo

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BTS flavor. Do you know who BTS is?

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Is that a Korean boy band?

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I think Steve must be a big fan of them.

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I don't know, but then he didn't recommend this, but

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I saw it anyway, and I got it. It is

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a Marvel tie in.

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Superdowers.

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Yes, it will apparently if you lick the cream, it

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will turn your tongue green, even though the cream is

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is brown and chocolate. So the BTS flavor is brown

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sugar pancake flavor.

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Oh that sounds kind of good.

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Yeah.

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So I haven't seen them because I always kind of

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glance at the Oreo flavors when I go down the aisle,

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and I need to give you a little kudos. I

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believe I had the bag of double stuff in the

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cupboard and I said I had bought them for a

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to make something for you, and I think I yelled

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at you and you abstained.

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Oh no, I haven't stayed. Oh you haven't checked them, obviously.

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No.

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I did the other day because I was like, for

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our Patreon episode, I was going to make something with Oreos,

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but then I didn't have the marshmallows. But anyway, so

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you have been eating them? I have, yes, Oh so

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I take it.

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Thanks anyway, though, Well let's give these a try. Sure,

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what did you think of those two crazy Oreo flavors?

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Well, first of all, you didn't bring me any milk.

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No I do, so that was you know, I missing

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your part. I don't normally eat two Oreos in a row. Like,

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I'm a one oreoted time person.

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So are you?

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I'm weird?

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I know.

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I kind of like the BTS one. I thought they're

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pretty good. There's like a little crunch in the cream

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of the marble ones. They're just kind of like muddy

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to me. Yeah, but it could be because I had

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one after the other. But good snacks. Thank you, and

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you because you gave Steve a shout out. Who else

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should you shout out at the same time. Your sister

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Julia and her business. Yeah, she's doing a lot of

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like art fair type things.

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Yeah, she makes really cool ear rings.

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And what is her Instagram? Where you or Facebook? Where

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you can find her?

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You can find her by searching for Grandma Jay Baked Clay.

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That's g R A M M A Underscore j Underscore

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Baked Underscore Clay.

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She's great and super friendly and Steve is often there

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too with her, and you have our permission to ask

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her questions about growing up with rich Why do you

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have two little oreos over there on the side.

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I I didn't eat the outside of both.

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Oh, I thought it was cream. Why did you leave

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the cream?

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It's the outside part?

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All right?

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Well, let's be here too. I know I am just

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a couple of weirdos. With the podcast.

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Today, we're going to tell the story of Lena and

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Adam Kaufman. It starts with a nine to one to

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one call that came in just after six in the

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morning on Wednesday, November seventh, two thousand and seven. On

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the line was Adam Kaufman, a thirty four year old

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real estate developer in Aventura, Florida, midway between Miami and

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Fort Lauderdale. He was trying to stay calm, but his

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voice kept breaking. His wife, Lina, was on the bathroom floor.

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She wasn't breathing, and he didn't know what to do.

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By the time paramedics arrived, Adam was on his knees

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performing CPR, his face streaked with pink, frothy fluid that

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had been coming from Lena's mouth. A rescue team tried

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to intubate her. They tried three times, but they never

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got the tube in. They loaded her onto a backboard

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and rushed her to Aventura Hospital, but it was too

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late to save Lina. She was pronounced dead on arrival.

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Lena Kaufman was thirty three years old, a mother of two,

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and by all accounts, perfectly healthy when she went to

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sleep the night before. Her sudden death was a complete

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shock and a total mystery. But as medical staff and

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investigators examined her at the hospital, they spotted something troubling,

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a series of distinct marks on her neck. That discovery

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kicked off a five year legal battle that would pit

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some of the country's top forensic experts against one another,

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spark an intense courtroom debate over medical evidence, and force

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a jury to decide between two different versions of reality.

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Was Lena murdered by her husband or did she suffer

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a sudden catastrophic medical emergency?

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So she was found first thing in the morning in

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the bathroom on the floor, Yes, And she wasn't screaming

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or calling for help. He just happened in there, correct.

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Eleah Nora Kaufman went by Lena. She was thirty three

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years old when she died. A mother of two and

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the kind of person who naturally drew people toward her.

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She was born in Israel after her parents, Frieda and

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Gregory emigrated there from Russia. The family settled in South Florida,

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which became Lena's home. Growing up between different cultures made

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her incredibly adaptable. By the time she was an adult,

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she spoke Russian, Danish, Flemish, Hebrew, and a bit of Italian.

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When her parents moved to Denmark for a year in

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nineteen ninety four teenaged Lina chose to stay behind in Florida,

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moving in first with her close friend Rena Azule and

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later with her aunt Brona. It was during a brief

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stint modeling at eighteen that she first met Rena. Lena

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later trained as a dental hygienist and built a tight

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knit circle of Russian friends that she would keep for

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the rest of her life. Her friends knew Lena as

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fiercely loyal and direct, the kind of person who always

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spoke her mind. She kept an immaculate home and stayed active,

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hitting spinning and yoga classes, or going rollerblading. At least

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two or three times a week. In fact, by the

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fall of two thousand and seven, she was in the

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best shape of her life, having just lost the pregnancy

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weight after the birth of her second child. But her

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medical history also carried some red flags. Lina suffered from

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heavy menstrual periods that often left her completely exhausted. Her

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mother also recalled that Lena had fainted several times, maybe

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a dozen, over the course of her life, and she

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frequently complained of severe headaches, But Lena and her parents

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had never sought medical help for any of those issues.

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There was also a piece of medical data buried deep

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in her records that wouldn't be scrutinized until years later

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after her death. Routine blood work from her pregnancy about

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twenty months before she died, showed extremely elevated levels of cytomegalovirus,

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a common virus that can occasionally cause severe complications. At

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the time, no one really made note of or followed

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up on the lab results. Whether any of these underlying

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health issues played a role in her death would ultimately

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become the battleground of the entire case.

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You've already disclosed that the cause of her death is indetermed,

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and it sounds like she doesn't have a vast medical history.

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Like you said that, she'd fainted at least a dozen times,

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and if that happens, that's usually there's a reason why

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you're fainting so much. It's abnormal to faint so much.

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other than the fact that she didn't seek out help

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for any of those issues that we spoke about earlier.

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And the cytomegalovirus. You know, it was tested and it

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was detected, but I didn't get the sense that anyone

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was alarmed or followed up on it. So she never

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really saw a specialist for any of these issues that

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she had.

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I think we've had two cases where something called long

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QT syndrome has been detected and the people had sudden deaths.

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So I wonder if that could be something that she

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could have had too, and she was never tested for it.

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But I remember those people had issues with their sleep,

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like they were old and sleepy, Okay, and it sounds

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like she was fit inactive.

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Yeah, yes, for sure. We'll talk later about some of

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the potential causes of her death if it was natural causes.

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Adam Kaufman was born in New York one of a

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pair of identical twins. His brother, Seth, wasn't just a sibling.

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He was the closest person in the world to Adam.

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They practically shared a brain. Seth's wife, Raquel, later described

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the two of them as completely inseparable, saying they would

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call each other every morning just to talk about what

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they were eating for breakfast, and they would constantly finish

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each other's sentences. When the twins turned twenty three, they

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moved from New York to South Florida together. I think

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being married to a twin would be very.

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Tricky, yes, I would imagine so.

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Adam's first job in Florida was teaching preschool to a

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private school in Broward County. He eventually moved to a

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public high school to teach social studies, but he was

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also working on his real estate license on the side.

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He left teaching behind and started doing on site sales

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at a development in Aventura. Soon he went to work

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for his uncle's real estate firm, Global Marketing Group, where

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he eventually worked his way up to senior vice president.

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Adam's critics would later try to paint him as a wealthy,

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high rolling developer. His supporters pushed back hard on that image,

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describing him instead as a regular middle class guy who

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just worked incredibly hard. But regardless of his bank account,

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his reputation among the people who actually knew him was spotless.

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His mother in law, Frida, who had lived with Adam

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and Lina for five months, said he felt more like

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a blood son to her than a son in law.

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She knew him as a wonderful husband who had never

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once raised his voice at her daughter. Friends and family

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knew him as a devoted dad whose week ends completely

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revolved around his kids. Adam lived just two blocks away

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from his twin brother. His family was so tightly woven

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into Lena's that by the fall of two thousand seven,

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the two households had essentially become one big, intertwined family.

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Adam and Lina met at a party in nineteen ninety seven,

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when he was still teaching. They dated for three years

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before getting married in early two thousand, a wedding that

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nearly went sideways at the last minute when Lena's childhood

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friend from New York failed to show up. Lena didn't panic.

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She just turned to her bridesmaid and close friend, Rena,

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and promoted her to maid of honor on the spot.

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They started their family in Miramar, then spent about five

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years in Pembroke Pines before finally settling into a home

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in the gated community of Aventura Lakes, just two blocks

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away from Adam's twins, Seth and his fiancee, Raquel. Their daughter, Hailey,

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was born in two thousand and two, when their son

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Jake followed in two thousand and six. To anyone looking in,

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the family was incredibly close. On weekends, Adam was the dad,

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taking the kids to the movies or to the mall.

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Lena kept the house pristine and worked part time helping

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bring in new clients for her father and brother's commercial

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kitchen business. They weren't rolling in cash, but they were

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comfortable and they were happy. Raquel later said that she

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admired Adam and Lena's marriage so much. She told Seth

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it was exactly the kind of relationship that she hoped

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they would have. As far as anyone knew, there was

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no history of domestic violence, no affairs on either side,

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no mounting debts, and no secret life insurance policy on paper,

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and by every account from the people who actually spent

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time with them, it was just a genuinely happy marriage.

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This is very different than a lot of cases we

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cover where there are red flags all over the place.

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In this case, there are no red flags at all.

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That anyone had a couple of things that will come

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out later that may have been red flags, but up

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to this point there's no reason to question that they

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weren't completely happing to.

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Sound like a good family sear. Heading into November two

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thousand and seven, the entire family was focused on one thing.

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Seth was marrying Raquel on November seventeenth, and everyone was

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caught up in the wedding rush. Adam was said to

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be his twin brother's best man, and Lena was one

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of Raquel's bridesmaids. By all accounts, Lena was genuinely thrilled

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about the wedding. She talked about it constantly with Raquel,

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was working out to look her best, and had actually

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gotten her first ever spray hand the night before she died,

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specifically so she would look just right in the bridesmaid's dress.

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But there was at least one source of tension, as

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the best man, Adam was supposed to walk down the

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aisle with the maid of honor, not with Lena. In

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the weeks leading up to the ceremony, Lena had reportedly

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been so upset about it that she threatened not to

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go to the wedding at all. Her friend Jennifer later

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confirmed that Lena was genuinely bothered by the arrangement. Adam

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would also acknowledge that it caused some friction, but he

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downplayed it, calling it a minor issue that never escalated

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into an actual fight. But depending on who you talk to,

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this detail means two entirely different things. To some, it

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was proved that the marriage had its hidden cracks. To others,

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it was exactly what Adam said. It was a completely ordinary,

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stressful disagreement between a husband and a wife in the

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chaotic final days before a massive family wedding.

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I would imagine that kind of disagreement comes up a

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lot in weddings, because when you're a married couple and

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you're friends with another couple, you know, sometimes one partner

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might be the best friend and the other partner might be,

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you know, just a good friend, and you have to

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have somebody else be the maid of honor.

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So I think in most situations like that, the bride

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would probably try to keep the couples paired together, but

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when you know, it's the best man and the maid

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of honor.

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Right.

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But this to me sounds more of like an issue

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between Lena and Raquel. Like I don't see her and

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Adam fighting about that. I would think that they would

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talk about it and she'd be like, oh, this is

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really annoying to me, right, yeah, And I don't think

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it would like between us. I don't think it would

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cause a fight. I think you would be like, yeah,

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that's a bummer. I think we should try to move

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on from Yeah.

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Yeah, no, I think that's a good point.

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It really.

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If there's any conflict there, it's between Lena and Raquel.

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We'll be back after a break.

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November sixth, two thousand and seven, started out as a

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completely ordinary Tuesday. Lena's friend Melissa saw her around three

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that afternoon in the carpool line at the temple where

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they picked up their kids. Later that evening, Lena made

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dinner for the family, and around seven o'clock she left

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to run a few errands while Adam stayed behind with

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Haley and Jake. Lina's first stop was that spray tan appointment,

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her first one ever. From there, she drove over to

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Sunny Isle's Beach to visit her friend Larissa at her condo.

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The two women caught up over a glass of wine

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and some hummus. Before she left, Lena asked Larissa to

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double check the new tan to make sure it wasn't streaky.

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She took off her top and turned around so her

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friend could get a clear look. Larissa closely examined her

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from the waist up. Later, she would explicitly recall that

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there wasn't a single bruise, scratch, or mark anywhere on

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Lena's skin. Lena left the condo around a quarter to eleven.

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Security footage from the Aventura Lakes guardgate captured her pulling

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into the neighborhood just after eleven o'clock. From midnight onward,

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the timeline gets a little bit blurry. Adam later told

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first responders that he was already asleep by the time

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Lena walked through the door. However, the emergency room doctor

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who treated Lena the next morning noted something slightly different.

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In his file. He wrote down that Adam claimed he

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last saw his wife around midnight and that she seemed

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completely fine. It was a minor contradiction, but it's the

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type of detail that can raise red flags with investigators.

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But he could have just meant that he was asleep

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and he sensed his wife getting home and crawling into bed.

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Yeah, but the fact that he told the doctor she

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seemed fine kind of indicates that maybe it was a

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little bit more than that. But you're right, there can

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be definitely.

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Ik, you know, I've gotten home late before and you've

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been in bed, and I think you know that I'm

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you know when I get there, but we don't like

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have a conversation or anything.

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Yeah.

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I think if I crawled in bed next to you

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would assume that I was fine, because if something was amiss,

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I would wake you up.

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Yeah, No, that's fair, Adam said. He woke up around

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five the next morning, November seventh, and noticed that Lena

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wasn't in bed. The bathroom light was on, Assuming she

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was just using the toilet, he rolled over and went

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back to sleep. At five point thirty, he woke up again.

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She still wasn't there. This time, he figured she must

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be sleeping with one of the kids, and he drifted

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off a second time. By six o'clock, he was up

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for good. With Lena still nowhere to be found. He

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started looking around the house and finally found her on

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the bathroom floor, completely unresponsive. He dialed nine one one

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at six o nine am. On the recording of that

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twenty three minute call, Adam sounds frantic, begging the dispatcher

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for help and saying his wife was cold to the

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touch with pink foam coming out of her mouth. The

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dispatcher started walking him through CPR, and Adam did his

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best to keep up. Miami did. Fire Rescue was dispatched

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at six thirteen am. They reached the gates of the

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Aventura Lakes community just six minutes later, but then they

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lost precious time trying to actually find the house. The

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GPS wasn't working properly, and the neighborhoods winding gated streets

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were tough to navigate. It was six twenty nine, sixteen

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minutes after the initial dispatch before Captain Joseph Carmen finally

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walked through the front door.

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Do you think that time made a difference.

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It couldn't have helped. I mean, it's really sad. I

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read later that the fire and rescue team they were

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only a half a mile away from where Adam and

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Lena lived, So really it boy it just should not

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have taken that long. But you know, sometimes you get

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inside these gated communities and it's just every condo looks

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the same and it's just hard to find the place.

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But really, it took them way, way too long. When

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Captain Carmen arrived, he ran upstairs and found Adam in

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boxer shorts and a red T shirt performing CPR. Atam's

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face was streaked with the pink, frothy fluid that had

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been coming out of Lena's mouth. Carmen and his crew

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immediately took over, moving Lina out of the tight bathroom

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so they had room to work. They tried to intubate

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her three times, but each attempt failed because Lina's airway

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was entirely blocked by the fluid, making it difficult to

468
00:23:20.039 --> 00:23:24.799
visually guide the tube. The monitor showed a sistily a flatline,

469
00:23:24.960 --> 00:23:28.559
no heartbeat, no blood pressure. At six point forty one.

470
00:23:28.680 --> 00:23:31.079
They loaded her onto a backboard and rushed her to

471
00:23:31.240 --> 00:23:35.759
Aventura Hospital, pulling up just four minutes later. The er

472
00:23:35.759 --> 00:23:39.920
doctor John Stollard managed to suction the fluid, intubate her

473
00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:44.640
successfully this time, and administer emergency meds, but there was

474
00:23:44.640 --> 00:23:47.920
no response Lena Kaufman was pronounced dead.

475
00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:51.480
In other cases we've had, when the victim has a pink,

476
00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:55.400
frothy liquid in their system, it's indicated of drowning.

477
00:23:55.759 --> 00:23:59.119
Was she in water, No, there was no water involved

478
00:23:59.160 --> 00:24:01.680
in this case. We'll talk about later what that pink,

479
00:24:01.720 --> 00:24:06.160
frothy liquid might have indicated if it was a medical issue.

480
00:24:06.279 --> 00:24:10.119
Right after pronouncing her dead, doctor Stollard called the paramedics

481
00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:12.880
back into the room. He wanted them to look at something.

482
00:24:13.480 --> 00:24:17.359
He pointed out petchial hemorrhaging in Lena's eyes, the tiny

483
00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:22.000
burst blood vessels that often hint at asphyxiation, and across

484
00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:25.400
her neck and shoulder, there were deep scratches, abrasions, and

485
00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:30.640
heavy redness. Suspecting a potential crime, an officer placed plastic

486
00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:33.880
bags over Lena's hands and taped them at the wrists

487
00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:38.519
to preserve any DNA under her fingernails. Meanwhile, back at

488
00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:43.079
the house, Aventura police were securing the scene. Officer Belinda

489
00:24:43.119 --> 00:24:45.559
Alvarez did a sweep of the home and walked into

490
00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:49.200
the closed garage. She would later testify that she heard

491
00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:52.599
a distinct ticking noise coming from the engine of Adam's

492
00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:55.720
silver Mercedes when she placed her hand on the hood,

493
00:24:56.160 --> 00:24:59.440
it was extremely warm, as if it had just been driven.

494
00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:02.279
But according to Adam, he had just woken up to

495
00:25:02.319 --> 00:25:05.039
find Lena. He hadn't been out since the day before.

496
00:25:05.799 --> 00:25:08.480
A lot of times cars after they'd been turned off

497
00:25:08.519 --> 00:25:11.640
after driving for a while make sort of a tickling noise,

498
00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:13.880
so that was what she thought she heard. At least

499
00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:18.960
inside the primary bedroom, first responders noticed something strange about

500
00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:21.640
the bed. It looked like it had only been slept in.

501
00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:25.400
On one side, Lina's pillow was pressed down and stained

502
00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:28.200
with an orange tint that matched her fresh spray tan.

503
00:25:28.839 --> 00:25:31.960
Adam's pillows, on the other hand, were perfectly plumped, which

504
00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:34.839
investigators thought was strange for a man who claimed to

505
00:25:34.839 --> 00:25:37.720
have been sleeping on them all night. Then there was

506
00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:41.400
the confusion over what Adam was wearing. Captain Carmen, the

507
00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:43.839
first on the scene, found him in boxers and a

508
00:25:43.880 --> 00:25:47.640
T shirt, but other officers who arrived shortly after described

509
00:25:47.640 --> 00:25:52.039
Adam as fully dressed, wearing designer jeans, clothes, tow shoes,

510
00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:55.839
and smelling of cologne. Exactly when or why he would

511
00:25:55.880 --> 00:25:59.960
have changed was never clearly established. Over at the hospital,

512
00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:03.559
officers noted that Adam's behavior was shifting in ways that

513
00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:07.519
made them uncomfortable. They watched him swing from totally calm

514
00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:12.160
to what one officer called forced hysteria, and then snap

515
00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:15.559
right back to calm again. Minutes after his wife was

516
00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:19.440
pronounced dead, he started asking tactical questions, what would the

517
00:26:19.480 --> 00:26:22.759
autopsy show, when would they release her body? And then

518
00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:26.319
he asked how can a toilet bowl choke somebody? When

519
00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:30.319
Lena's mother, Frieda, arrived at the hospital, she was distraught,

520
00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:34.559
wailing and asking how this could have happened. According to witnesses,

521
00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:37.720
Adam's response was to yell back at her, I don't

522
00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:41.680
fucking know why. Later that morning, a crime scene technician

523
00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:45.319
named Anna Howell came in to photograph the home. She

524
00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:49.599
noted that the house was immaculate, no overturned furniture, no

525
00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:53.920
signs of a struggle. She photographed the primary bathroom, including

526
00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:57.119
a magazine rack in the corner near the toilet. This

527
00:26:57.279 --> 00:27:01.000
magazine rack will become important, so I want to decribe it.

528
00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:03.519
It was made of a leather type material and was

529
00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:05.720
sitting on the floor in the corner in front of

530
00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:09.440
the toilet, holding maybe twenty magazines. It sort of looks

531
00:27:09.480 --> 00:27:12.799
like a picnic basket shape with a stiff leather strap

532
00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:15.319
that goes over the top that serves as a handle.

533
00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:18.359
That strap has a buckle like a belt buckle on top.

534
00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:21.079
Does that make sense? Does that? Am I painting a

535
00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:21.839
picture of what that?

536
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:22.960
So?

537
00:27:23.079 --> 00:27:25.920
I mean, it's just basically a box sitting on the

538
00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:28.400
floor made of leather, open at the top, but it's

539
00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:30.680
got a handle that goes over the top that you

540
00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:32.640
can pick up like a like a picnic basket.

541
00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:34.720
Okay, when you said rack, that kind of threw me.

542
00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:35.079
Yeah.

543
00:27:35.079 --> 00:27:37.240
They call it. They've been referring to it in all

544
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:40.279
the materials that I've researched as a magazine rack, but

545
00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:41.079
it's more.

546
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:41.839
Like a basket.

547
00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:44.920
Yeah. Yeah, that's probably a better way to describe it.

548
00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:48.000
And we will post a picture on our social media

549
00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:49.400
of that magazine.

550
00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:52.720
I think it's decades since we have had magazines in

551
00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:56.400
our bathroom, but I think that is something that we

552
00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:57.640
probably used to do.

553
00:27:57.880 --> 00:28:01.319
Before we had phones. Yeah, exactly, under the direction of

554
00:28:01.359 --> 00:28:05.359
the lead detective Anthony Angulo, the crime scene technician Anna

555
00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:08.799
Howell didn't impound the rack or the magazines inside it,

556
00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:12.720
a decision that would come under heavy scrutiny. Later, by

557
00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:15.039
the end of the day, Adam's parents had moved into

558
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:17.799
the house to help look after the kids. A cleaning

559
00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:20.519
service was brought in to clean the blood and fluid

560
00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:24.279
from the primary bathroom, and the family began making arrangements

561
00:28:24.319 --> 00:28:27.799
to sit Shiva Seth and Raquel's wedding was supposed to

562
00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:29.599
take place in just ten days.

563
00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:33.359
Right from the start, investigators ran into a problem with

564
00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:37.480
Adam's story. His account of exactly how he found Lena changed.

565
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:40.279
At the house, he told paramedics that he'd found her

566
00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:42.960
slumped over the toilet bowl with her head resting on

567
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:45.400
the rim, looking as though she had been throwing up,

568
00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:48.839
but later over at the hospital, he gave a different description.

569
00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:52.880
This time he said she had fallen forward off the toilet,

570
00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:56.119
landing with her neck wedged directly on top of the

571
00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:59.799
magazine rack in the corner. Adam, however, later maintained that

572
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.160
story never changed, arguing that he never told a single

573
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:07.119
person and that version about the toilet bowl, but multiple

574
00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:10.599
first responders would later swear under oath that he did.

575
00:29:10.799 --> 00:29:13.480
There's no recording of this. Nobody had body cams or

576
00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:16.200
anything like that, so basically what we have as atom's

577
00:29:16.279 --> 00:29:18.759
word against some of these first responders.

578
00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:23.480
Lena Kaufin's autopsy was performed the following morning, November eighth,

579
00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:27.519
by doctor Chester Gwynn, a forensic pathology fellow, under the

580
00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:33.039
supervision of doctor Setish Chandru. Lena was thirty three years old,

581
00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:36.079
five foot five and weighed one hundred and twenty four pounds.

582
00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:39.480
On the outside, she looked like a completely healthy, fit

583
00:29:39.640 --> 00:29:43.440
young woman, but the internal exam showed a significant amount

584
00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:47.720
of trauma. On the surface. The doctor's documented petechial hemorrhaging,

585
00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:51.160
those tiny burst blood vessels and the whites of both eyes,

586
00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:54.279
on her eyelids and on the inside of her lips.

587
00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:58.279
There were abrasions on her chin, scrapes underneath it, and

588
00:29:58.440 --> 00:30:02.079
multiple irregular red marks scrapping across the front and sides

589
00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:05.319
of her neck. She also had bruises scattered across her

590
00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:09.839
body on her left shoulder, upper chest, both elbows, her

591
00:30:09.960 --> 00:30:14.359
left knee, right thigh, lower right leg, and left ankle.

592
00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:18.799
That's a lot of bruising. When doctor Gwynn dissected deeper

593
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:22.200
into her neck, the damage went much further than skin deep.

594
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:26.240
There was bleeding buried within multiple layers of muscle, including

595
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:29.240
the strap muscles at the front of the throat, the

596
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:32.839
right lobe of the thyroid gland, and deeper still, the

597
00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:36.319
muscles pressed right up against her spinal column at the

598
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:38.839
back of her neck. There was bleeding on both sides

599
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:42.799
of her upper back and shoulder muscles. These internal injuries

600
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:48.240
penetrated three and four layers deep into her tissue. Interestingly,

601
00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:52.519
her hyoid bone and thyroid cartilage were both completely intact.

602
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:55.960
There were no fractures, fractures of the hyoid bone and

603
00:30:56.039 --> 00:31:00.599
thyroid cartilage, or common signs of manual strangulation. However, a

604
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:04.920
lack of fracture doesn't rule out strangulation. At least thirty

605
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:09.279
per cent and possibly more. Manual strangulations do not result

606
00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:13.640
in fractures, so the petchial hemorrhaging that is also a

607
00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:18.559
sign of strangulation, and that was present. Lena's internal organs

608
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:21.799
raised more flags for the pathology team. Her heart weighed

609
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:24.680
two hundred forty grams, which is completely normal for a

610
00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:28.759
woman her size with no visible structural issues. Her brain

611
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:31.920
appeared normal as well, but her lungs were a completely

612
00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:35.720
different story. The right long weighed eight hundred fifty grams

613
00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:38.240
and the left was seven hundred forty, which is much

614
00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:42.279
higher than normal. They were entirely saturated with fluid, which

615
00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:44.759
was what had been pushed up into her airways and

616
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:47.960
created the pink, frothy discharge that Adam was trying to

617
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:51.319
clear during the nine one one call. Her stomach also

618
00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:55.640
still contained about four hundred milli liters of partially digested food,

619
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:58.720
meaning that she had died before her body had time

620
00:31:58.839 --> 00:32:02.200
to process her dinner, although how long after eating is

621
00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:06.079
hard to say, it's an inexact science. By the end

622
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:10.160
of the autopsy, doctors Gwynn and Chun Drew strongly suspected

623
00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:15.759
mechanical asphyxiation, meaning someone or something had physically choked Lena

624
00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:18.319
to death, but they weren't ready to sign off on

625
00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:21.640
that just yet. They needed to wait for the toxicology results,

626
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:23.960
and they wanted to give the police department time to

627
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:27.400
move forward with their investigation, so for the time being,

628
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:30.920
the official cause and manner of death were listed simply

629
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:33.960
as pending. It would take more than a year before

630
00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:38.319
the medical examiners finally made an official decision. That must

631
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:40.039
have been very frustrating for her family.

632
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:43.799
Oh incredibly so right, just not knowing what happened or

633
00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:46.640
how your loved one died, especially someone that young and

634
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:50.119
in such apparently good health, not having those answers would

635
00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:51.440
be very frustrating.

636
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:54.720
So you said her lungs weighed they were much heavier

637
00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:57.079
than they should have been. Do you know, like how

638
00:32:57.160 --> 00:32:59.000
much more were they? Like twenty percent heavy?

639
00:32:59.079 --> 00:32:59.240
Year?

640
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:01.920
I read different accounts. It's funny you say that, because

641
00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:04.440
when I was looking over the script, initially what I

642
00:33:04.519 --> 00:33:08.680
read was that they weighed about three times as much

643
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:11.279
as a normal lung should. But then I did a

644
00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:14.720
little more research, and it seems like it varies widely,

645
00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:17.200
so it's kind of hard to say. It seems like

646
00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:20.440
maybe it was not that much, maybe double or maybe

647
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:23.079
not quite double, but it's significant either way.

648
00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:26.279
Yeah. Yeah, So the trauma to her neck, the deep

649
00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:30.519
tissue that was damaged, and the bruising and the scratches, right,

650
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:33.839
could that have been caused by the attempts to resuscitate her.

651
00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:35.839
Yeah. I think that's going to be part of the

652
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:38.359
debate that's going to happen, is whether some of these

653
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:41.680
things were caused either by that or by a medical

654
00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:44.720
issue that could have occurred. And also the you know,

655
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:48.440
she had injuries to the surface of her neck as well,

656
00:33:48.480 --> 00:33:51.160
and like different parts of her body. Could those have

657
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:54.160
been a result of, like her falling on the floor,

658
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:57.720
falling on top of this magazine basket. So I think

659
00:33:57.799 --> 00:33:59.720
that's really what this case is going to come down to.

660
00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:03.559
Ten days after Lina's death, Seth and Raquel's wedding went

661
00:34:03.640 --> 00:34:07.039
ahead as planned. The family had consulted their rabbi, who

662
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:11.239
told them that Jewish tradition dictates life should be celebrated,

663
00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:14.920
that life comes before death. Adam still served as his

664
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:17.960
brother's best man, but out of respect, no one was

665
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:21.239
brought in to replace Lina's spot as a bridesmaid. Just

666
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:24.199
six weeks later, at the end of December, Adam attended

667
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:27.960
a graduation party in the neighborhood. Still wearing his wedding ring.

668
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:31.960
He introduced himself to a woman named Farah Cornblum and

669
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:36.239
the two exchanged phone numbers. He did not six weeks

670
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:39.719
By February two thousand and eight, they were officially dating.

671
00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:42.079
Wanted to give this guy the benefit of the doubt.

672
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:43.320
Yeah, that's really fast.

673
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:46.400
It was a rabbit timeline that prosecutors would later seize

674
00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:50.639
on to question Adam's grief Meanwhile, the Medical Examiner's office

675
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:53.280
was undergoing a shake up, and the spring and summer

676
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:56.440
of two thousand and eight, both doctor Gwynn and doctor Chundra,

677
00:34:56.599 --> 00:35:00.639
the two pathologists who had actually performed Lina's autopsy, left

678
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:04.280
Miami Dade for other jobs. With a case still completely

679
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:06.840
wide open, the file landed on the desk of the

680
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:12.519
Chief Medical Examiner, doctor Bruce Heima. Doctor Heima approached it methodically,

681
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:15.840
rather than rushing to a judgment that Lena had been strangled.

682
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:19.320
He spent the next several months systematically ruling out every

683
00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:24.320
single alternative theory. He ordered specialized toxicology screens to check

684
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:28.440
for synthetic narcotics like ventanyl or signs of diabetic shock.

685
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:31.880
They all came back clean. He even ordered heavy metal

686
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:35.320
testing to rule out an early theory that Lena may

687
00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:38.760
have had a fatal allergic reaction to her fresh spray

688
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:43.079
tand that came back negative too. By November two thousand

689
00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:46.440
and eight, doctor Hima was meeting regularly with the lead detective,

690
00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:50.840
Anthony Angelo, to pick apart the physical evidence. He tracked

691
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:54.119
down the records for an elective breast augmentation Lena had

692
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:57.320
undergone five months before her death. He went so far

693
00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:00.000
as tracing the serial numbers on the rest and place

694
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:03.360
plans back to the manufacturer just to confirm the facility,

695
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:07.239
and when he reviewed the anesthesiologist's notes, they showed that

696
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:10.880
she had a perfectly normal heart rate with zero abnormalities

697
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:14.039
throughout the surgery. By the spring of two thousand and nine,

698
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:17.400
doctor Heimo was conducting face to face interviews with every

699
00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:20.320
paramedic who had responded to the nine to one one call.

700
00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:23.559
He wanted to know exactly what they saw and precisely

701
00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:27.679
how they handled Lena's body, needing to be absolutely certain

702
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:30.639
that their life saving efforts couldn't have caused the deep

703
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:34.400
bruising on Lina's neck. All through this process, Adam and

704
00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:38.880
his family were constantly calling the medical Examiner's office demanding answers.

705
00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:43.440
Investigators reviewed this aggressive push as suspicious, but Adam and

706
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:45.760
his family insisted that they just wanted to know what

707
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:48.960
had happened. They also were terrified that Lena might have

708
00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:52.360
died from a hidden, hereditary heart condition that could one

709
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:55.880
day take their two young children. As the months dragged

710
00:36:55.920 --> 00:36:59.920
on with no answers, the calls grew increasingly tense. Finally,

711
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:02.840
in April two thousand and nine, Adam filed a formal

712
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:07.159
complaint against doctor Heima's office with the Medical Examiner's Commission

713
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:12.039
in Tallahassee. By a striking coincidence, or maybe not a coincidence,

714
00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:15.679
doctor Hima finally signed off on the official autopsy results

715
00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:19.880
the same day that Adam's complaint was filed. Doctor Heima's

716
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:23.039
conclusion left no room for doubt. He ruled the cause

717
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:26.960
of death as mechanical asphyxiation and the manner of death

718
00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:31.639
as homicide. In short, someone had physically choked the life

719
00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:35.119
out of Lena Kaufman. Surely after the ruling came down,

720
00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:38.679
police arrested Adam and charged him with second degree murder.

721
00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:42.119
According to the officers who handcuffed him, Adam seemed to

722
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:45.039
be in complete, genuine shock. You've got to be kidding me,

723
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:48.480
he said, how could this happen? There's a mistake. What

724
00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:53.760
evidence is there? There's no evidence. Seth later described his

725
00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:58.119
twin brother's arrest, coming a full eighteen months after Lina's passing,

726
00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:01.800
as feeling like a second death in the family. Adam

727
00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:04.800
was eventually released on a five hundred thousand dollars bond,

728
00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:08.880
but the hearing itself turned bizarre. Because Adam and Seth

729
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:13.280
are identical twins, the judge was concerned about a potential switch.

730
00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:17.719
To prevent any confusion, she took an extraordinary precaution in

731
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:21.159
open court. She ordered both brothers to strip off their

732
00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:25.159
shirts so bailiffs could identify Adam by a specific tattoo

733
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:28.960
on his upper left arm, before locking the ankle monitor

734
00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:32.119
in place. Both men were also forced to hand over

735
00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:35.599
their passports with a monitor strapped to his leg. Adam

736
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:38.480
went home to his kids and began a grueling three

737
00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:41.440
year wait for his trial to finally begin.

738
00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:43.760
It's kind of a funny detail about the twins. I

739
00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:47.440
can't imagine why you would offer to go to jail

740
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:49.800
or go on trial for your twin brother. But I

741
00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:52.199
think they were just worried. You know, twins do have

742
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:57.079
a tendency. Oh, they look exactly alike. There was a

743
00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:59.559
show that I watched that had both of them on there,

744
00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:02.199
and yeah, I wouldn't have been able to tell the difference.

745
00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:05.960
It reminds me of the case of Lynett Dawson. The

746
00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:08.800
brothers were identical too, but I could tell them apart

747
00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:10.320
they looked sometimes.

748
00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:12.960
Yeah, sometimes you see identical twins, and you're like, yeah,

749
00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:16.119
I can see differences, but and you know, maybe if

750
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:18.639
I look closer at Adam and his brother, I would

751
00:39:18.639 --> 00:39:21.280
notice differences. But they looked to me completely identically.

752
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:22.920
We did one have tattoos and one did not.

753
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:26.199
I don't know if they both had tattoos, one had

754
00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:26.960
a different tattoo.

755
00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:30.079
Yeah, that's interesting. We'll be back after a break.

756
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:41.039
As we mentioned earlier, immediately after Lena had been pronounced dead,

757
00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:44.760
responding officers had taken the standard precaution of wrapping her

758
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:48.480
hands in blue plastic bags to protect any potential evidence,

759
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:52.199
but that protective seal didn't stay on for long. Later

760
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:55.920
that morning, crime scene technician Anna Howell arrived at the hospital,

761
00:39:56.320 --> 00:40:00.480
removed the bags, took photos of Lena's hands, and personally

762
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:03.760
clipped her fingernails right there in the room, sealing the

763
00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:06.960
clippings away in a box for the crime lab. When

764
00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:10.239
the lab results eventually came back, they were completely clear.

765
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:14.440
There wasn't a single shred of foreign DNA identified on

766
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:17.239
any of the samples. To put it plainly, there was

767
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:20.719
no trace of Adam Kaufman anywhere on his wife's body.

768
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:24.960
This was definitely a win. For Adam, but behind the scenes,

769
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:28.639
his defense team realized that the police had severely compromised

770
00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:32.280
the physical evidence. They would later bring in world renowned

771
00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:36.519
forensic pathologists doctor Michael Bodden to review the files, and

772
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:39.519
what he found gave the defense a massive club to

773
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:40.960
hammer investigators with.

774
00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:45.199
How is he involved in eighty percent of autopsies? It

775
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:49.519
is insane and he's like two hundred years old, probably.

776
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:52.039
Not quite that old, but he is not a young man.

777
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:56.400
The problem was that the police had fundamentally botched standard

778
00:40:56.400 --> 00:41:00.920
forensic protocol in three major ways. First, the hospital was

779
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:04.320
the completely wrong venue and a technician was the wrong

780
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:08.360
person for the job. To prevent contamination of victim's hands

781
00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:12.000
are supposed to stay securely bagged and untouched until the

782
00:41:12.039 --> 00:41:15.599
body is safely inside the controlled environment of the medical

783
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:19.360
examiner's office. Once there, the collection is handled by a

784
00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:24.000
trained medical examiner using a specialized forensic kit, not by

785
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:27.639
a tech on a hospital bed. Second, and most crucially,

786
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:31.719
the technician skipped the most important step in the manual scraping.

787
00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:35.320
Forensic experts know that before you ever bring a pair

788
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:38.519
of clippers near a victim's fingers, you must use a

789
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:43.440
specialized tool to scrape underneath the intact nails. That scraping

790
00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:47.519
is what actually captures trapped skin cells, fibers, or an

791
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:53.480
attacker's DNA. By skipping straight to the clipping, investigators likely crushed, lost,

792
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:57.400
or destroyed the exact trace evidence that they were looking for.

793
00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:00.880
But the defense's biggest attack turned and a piece of

794
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:05.199
the prosecution's own evidence upside down. The police had documented

795
00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:09.320
chipped nail polish on Lena's right index and middle fingers,

796
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:13.000
flagging it as fight back marks from a violent struggle.

797
00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:17.079
The defense, however, saw something much more careless. Clipping the

798
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:21.159
nails of a deceased person is notoriously difficult if you

799
00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:24.239
don't get a perfectly clean cut and end up tugging

800
00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:27.920
the remaining edge off you shear the nail. The defense

801
00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:31.320
was prepared to argue that those chips weren't the results

802
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:33.719
of a fight for her life. They were just the

803
00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:38.039
direct result of a technician botching the job. It meant

804
00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:40.519
that long before the case ever went to trial, the

805
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:45.159
physical evidence was already in question. Did Adam's DNA genuinely

806
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:49.079
never exist under Lena's nails, or had a sloppy police

807
00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:51.280
procedure accidentally erased it.

808
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:53.599
Oh boy, that's frustrating.

809
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:55.599
It is frustrating, and it's interesting.

810
00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:59.599
There's not a shred though. Even if it was handled poorly,

811
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:02.519
you think there would be, you know, a shred.

812
00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:04.719
Of evidence there, Yeah, you would think. So it is

813
00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:07.280
interesting that the position the defense was put in here

814
00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:10.000
because in some ways they must have been glad that

815
00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:12.599
the police botched the job because it didn't find any

816
00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:16.079
of Adam's DNA, But at the same time they realized, oh,

817
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:19.159
we can use this against them, to basically say, this

818
00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:23.440
investigation was flawed from the very beginning. While Adam was

819
00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:25.960
sitting in pre trial detention in the spring of two

820
00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:29.400
thousand and nine, he was doing what almost every inmate does,

821
00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:33.119
calling home, and just like every other jail in the country,

822
00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:37.199
the system was recording every single second of those conversations.

823
00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:40.679
Over a six week stretch, Adam made around one hundred

824
00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:43.559
and fifty phone calls, racking up more than one hundred

825
00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:46.960
hours of audio. Because of recording warning plays at the

826
00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:50.000
start of every call, Adam knew he had an audience.

827
00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:53.440
In an apparent attempt to get around it, he spoke

828
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:57.079
in a strange, vague kind of code. In one tape,

829
00:43:57.079 --> 00:44:00.239
he literally started spelling out words instead of saying them

830
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:06.960
out loud, words like wn and car to the detectives,

831
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:11.079
listening in the spelling of wine indicated that Adam was

832
00:44:11.119 --> 00:44:14.360
trying to choreograph a story with his family to protect

833
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:17.400
the initial excuse he had given to first responders on

834
00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:21.119
the morning that Lina died. Back on November seventh, Adam

835
00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:25.519
had repeatedly pointed paramedics, police officers, and the er doctor

836
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:27.960
toward the fact that Lena had been out the night

837
00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:31.440
before drinking wine with a friend. He used that detail

838
00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:34.199
to bolster the theory that she had gotten sick and

839
00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:38.719
perhaps choked while throwing up. However, when Chief medical Examiner

840
00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:42.800
doctor Bruce Heimer ran Lina's toxicology report, the results came

841
00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:46.880
back entirely clean. Despite Adam pushing the wine theory to

842
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:49.159
anyone who would listen on the morning of her death,

843
00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:53.239
Lena actually had zero alcohol in her system when she died.

844
00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:58.280
To the prosecution, Adams spelling out WN on a recorded

845
00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:02.320
jail line wasn't an innocent legal discussion. It was a

846
00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:06.679
suspect trying to manufacture an alibi that science had already

847
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:10.599
proven false. The state argued that this same guilty state

848
00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:13.480
of mind was on display when Adam brought up the

849
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:17.400
primary bedroom layout. In one recording, he told his family,

850
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:20.159
I'm not going to say much about that magazine rack,

851
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:22.840
because if it wasn't the way that we wanted it,

852
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:26.440
it would have been evidence already to prosecutors. This was

853
00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:30.320
a killer actively strategizing with his inner circle to control

854
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:33.519
the narrative around the physical layout of the crime scene.

855
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:37.719
They argued that a genuinely devastated husband wouldn't be obsessing

856
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:40.960
over crime scene logistics from a jail cell. He would

857
00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:41.559
be mourning.

858
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:44.360
Well is eighteen months later, Yeah.

859
00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:46.760
And he is basically in a fight for his life,

860
00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:49.440
So of course he's going to be looking at these things.

861
00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:53.199
But by spelling out words, I don't understand the need

862
00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:57.280
to do that, unless, like, if you say why out loud,

863
00:45:57.360 --> 00:45:59.079
does it flag something in your cause?

864
00:45:59.119 --> 00:46:01.880
I really don't know what his motivation was for spelling

865
00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:04.480
out words, Like maybe he thought that, you know, a

866
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:07.960
transcript would automatically pick up some words and maybe if

867
00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:11.960
he spelled them out, yeah, that they wouldn't To me, Yeah,

868
00:46:11.960 --> 00:46:13.920
but it really it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

869
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:17.679
But Adam's defense team would later argue that the prosecution

870
00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:22.519
was engaging in desperate speculation. They maintained that Adam's words

871
00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:26.159
weren't scandalous or sinister at all. He was just stating

872
00:46:26.199 --> 00:46:30.000
a plain, logical fact. The police had already searched the bathroom,

873
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:34.360
photographed the corner, and chosen not to impound the magazine rack.

874
00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:37.679
Adam was simply pointing out that if the rack actually

875
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:40.559
showed that he was guilty, the police wouldn't have left

876
00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:43.920
it sitting in his house. Furthermore, the defense noted that

877
00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:47.840
Adam was only speaking in that vague, cautious shorthand because

878
00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:50.800
his own lawyers had strictly ordered him not to discuss

879
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:54.760
the case on a monitored jail phone line. Still, the

880
00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:58.559
prosecution believed they had him cornered, especially as he kept

881
00:46:58.599 --> 00:47:02.199
circling back to Lina's fire final errand. In one conversation,

882
00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:05.559
he told his family, remember, in preparation for the wedding,

883
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:09.760
before she went, she did something at the salon that

884
00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:13.360
is a major major part of this. Later, he mentioned

885
00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:16.679
that someone had sent him an article about anaphylactic shock

886
00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:20.480
from cosmetic treatments, telling his family he had forwarded it

887
00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:24.039
to his lawyer because it was quote extremely interesting.

888
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:27.480
Before the trial began, both sides fought a series of

889
00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:30.360
legal battles over what the jury would and wouldn't be

890
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:33.880
allowed to hear. Both sides knew that the judge's decision

891
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:37.360
on what evidence could actually enter the courtroom would shape

892
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:40.960
the entire trial. The state scored its biggest victory when

893
00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:44.760
it came to those jailhouse phone calls. The defense fought

894
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:47.880
to keep them out of the courtroom, arguing that Adam's

895
00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:51.679
vague code words would unfairly prejudice the jury and that

896
00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:54.159
he was only speaking that way because his lawyers had

897
00:47:54.159 --> 00:47:57.719
told him to. But the judge ruled that because inmates

898
00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:01.280
are warned that they have zero expectation of privacy, the

899
00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:05.079
tapes were fair game. The judge did offer one concession

900
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:09.639
to the defense. If prosecutors played a damning thirty second snippet,

901
00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:12.679
the defense had the right to play the full thirty

902
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:16.719
minute conversation to give the jury the proper context. But

903
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:20.000
the defense scored two victories of their own that kept

904
00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:25.119
the prosecution from completely destroying Adam's character. First, the state

905
00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:28.760
wanted to call a confidential informant who claimed Adam had

906
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:32.280
once choked a college roommate, and they tried to introduce

907
00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:35.480
a ten year old arrest record from West Virginia for

908
00:48:35.559 --> 00:48:39.000
assault and battery. The judge threw it all out, ruling

909
00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:43.440
the allegations were too old, too remote, and too inflammatory

910
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:44.360
to be fair.

911
00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:46.840
I wasn't able to find out any more about those

912
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:47.760
two allegations.

913
00:48:48.119 --> 00:48:48.599
Intriguing.

914
00:48:48.679 --> 00:48:50.679
Yeah, it is intriguing, but yeah, I don't have any

915
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:54.039
details about who reported those or what the details of

916
00:48:54.360 --> 00:48:56.159
the assault and battery charge were.

917
00:48:56.800 --> 00:49:00.159
Second, the defense successfully blocked the state from mentioning that

918
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:04.119
Adam had started dating Farah Kornblum just weeks after his

919
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:07.599
wife's death. At least initially, the judge agreed that letting

920
00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:10.559
the jury hear about a new girlfriend so soon after

921
00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:15.159
the tragedy would prejudice them too deeply to be relevant. However,

922
00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:18.159
during the trial, the judge decided to allow the Farah

923
00:49:18.239 --> 00:49:22.079
Kornblum evidence, saying the defense had opened the door to

924
00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:25.719
it by repeatedly calling witnesses who talked about how good

925
00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:29.960
Adam and Lena's marriage was. With those decisions made, the

926
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:33.480
defense made one final aggressive play to get the entire

927
00:49:33.599 --> 00:49:37.800
case dismissed before it could even start. They argued that

928
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:43.239
the police had fundamentally violated Adam's constitutional rights by failing

929
00:49:43.320 --> 00:49:47.840
to take the magazine rack into evidence, essentially destroying evidence

930
00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:52.320
that could have proven his innocence. But the judge shot

931
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:55.400
down the motion, drawing a hard line between a sloppy

932
00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:59.519
failure to collect evidence and the deliberate act of destroying it.

933
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:03.360
Because the police had never actually taken the magazines into custody,

934
00:50:03.679 --> 00:50:08.079
their loss didn't cross the line into a constitutional violation.

935
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:12.519
Prosecutors finally began to lay out their case against Adam

936
00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:17.519
Kaufman in May twenty twelve, almost five years after Lena's death.

937
00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:20.840
Their goal was to prove that in the quiet early

938
00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:24.480
morning hours of November seventh, two thousand and seven, Adam

939
00:50:24.599 --> 00:50:27.719
had manually strangled his wife and then spent the rest

940
00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:30.679
of the morning staging the bathroom to make it look

941
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:34.159
like a tragic accident. The bedrock of their case was

942
00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:39.199
the medical evidence. Three different forensic pathologists took the stand

943
00:50:39.239 --> 00:50:44.000
to testify that Lena had died from mechanical asphyxiation. They

944
00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:47.079
pointed to those tiny burst blood vessels in her eyes

945
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:50.440
and lips as classic markers of someone being starved of

946
00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:53.920
oxygen while they were still alive, But the evidence that

947
00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:57.599
carried the most weight was the deep tissue damage. The

948
00:50:57.639 --> 00:51:01.400
state argued that the bleeding buried four layers deep in

949
00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:04.280
Lina's neck muscles all the way down to her spine,

950
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:10.519
required significant sustained physical force. These weren't surface scrapes. The

951
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:14.280
state argued that they were the literal markers of a strangulation,

952
00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:18.480
and they happened before she died, meaning they couldn't be

953
00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:22.480
blamed on Adam's frantic CPR or the paramedics trying to

954
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:25.920
slide a tube down her throat. To dismantle the defense's

955
00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:29.239
theory that Lena had simply fainted and fallen onto the

956
00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:32.840
magazine rack, causing the injuries to her neck, the state

957
00:51:33.000 --> 00:51:38.760
called a physicist named doctor James Ipsur. Using computer simulations,

958
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:42.599
Ipster testified that a simple forward fall from a toilet

959
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:46.719
seat couldn't generate anywhere near the velocity needed to crush

960
00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:51.119
deep neck muscles. More importantly, he noted a glaring detail

961
00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:54.880
if a human being faints and falls forward like a tree,

962
00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:58.639
the forehead and nose absorbed the impact, and while Lena

963
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:01.000
did have a couple of abrasions on her chin, she

964
00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:03.480
had no injuries to the rest of her face, including

965
00:52:03.519 --> 00:52:08.719
her nose, brow, eyebrow ridges, or forehead. Beyond the science,

966
00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:12.039
the state hammered away at Adam's behavior, painting him not

967
00:52:12.079 --> 00:52:15.079
as a grieving widower but as a man desperately fishing

968
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:18.599
for information. They reminded the jury that his story shifted

969
00:52:18.599 --> 00:52:21.920
within hours, telling paramedics he found her slumped over the

970
00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:25.599
toilet rim then telling hospitals staff that she was wedged

971
00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:30.679
against the magazine rack, and prosecutors highlighted the specific tactical

972
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:34.519
questions Adam asked officers mere minutes after learning his wife

973
00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:37.639
was dead, while will the autopsy show, when will the

974
00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:41.119
body be released? And how can a toilet bowl choke somebody?

975
00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:45.920
Then came the jelhouse tapes. Prosecutors argued that an innocent,

976
00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:49.360
heartbroken husband would be using those hours of phone calls

977
00:52:49.400 --> 00:52:52.960
to mourn his family or check in on his kids. Instead,

978
00:52:53.079 --> 00:52:57.679
Adam was caught spelling out words like wn and car,

979
00:52:58.199 --> 00:53:00.960
which the state argued was a clear attempt to choreograph

980
00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:04.000
alibis for why his wife was over the toilet and

981
00:53:04.039 --> 00:53:07.559
why his car engine was warm, and that car engine

982
00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:11.320
was just one piece of a bizarre scene. First responders documented.

983
00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:15.280
At the house, police found Adam's Mercedes Hood radiating heat

984
00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:18.920
inside a closed garage, suggesting that it had been driven

985
00:53:18.960 --> 00:53:21.840
in the middle of the night. I just thought of something.

986
00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:25.079
So a Mercedes obviously a nice car, but it's two

987
00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:27.840
thousand and seven. So does it have like, you know,

988
00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:30.719
the data of like the GPS in it.

989
00:53:31.079 --> 00:53:33.400
I don't know the answer to that. But what I

990
00:53:33.440 --> 00:53:35.679
do know is that they lived in a gated community

991
00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:38.960
with video cameras everywhere, and there was no cameras that

992
00:53:39.079 --> 00:53:40.880
showed the car leaving or coming.

993
00:53:41.119 --> 00:53:42.119
Sounds like a red herring.

994
00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:43.719
Pin seems like a red herring to me.

995
00:53:44.280 --> 00:53:47.639
Inside the bedroom, the mattress was only indented on one side,

996
00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:51.480
and Adam's pillows were perfectly plumped. Even Adam's clothes raised

997
00:53:51.480 --> 00:53:54.239
eyebrows well he claimed that he had just leapt out

998
00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:57.159
of bed in a panic. Arriving officers noted he was

999
00:53:57.159 --> 00:54:01.559
fully dressed in designer jeans, closed toe shoes, an expensive watch,

1000
00:54:01.639 --> 00:54:05.679
and smelled distinctly of cologne. Finally, the state took aim

1001
00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:08.599
at the defense's image of a perfectly healthy woman who

1002
00:54:08.639 --> 00:54:11.840
suddenly dropped dead in a happy marriage to prove Lena

1003
00:54:11.960 --> 00:54:14.559
didn't have a hidden heart condition. They brought up her

1004
00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:18.559
breast augmentation from the five months earlier, noting her heart

1005
00:54:18.599 --> 00:54:22.440
monitor didn't get a single beat during the entire surgery,

1006
00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:25.800
and to shatter the portrait of the grieving husband, they

1007
00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:29.519
called Barah Kornblum to the stand. She testified that just

1008
00:54:29.599 --> 00:54:32.960
six weeks after Lena died, Adam approached her at a party,

1009
00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:37.239
got physically affectionate, took her number, and they quickly started

1010
00:54:37.239 --> 00:54:41.000
a sexual relationship. Piece by piece, the state argued that

1011
00:54:41.079 --> 00:54:44.559
the timeline, the physics, and the behavior all pointed to

1012
00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:49.280
the same conclusion. Adam Kaufman killed his wife. Well be

1013
00:54:49.400 --> 00:54:51.440
back after a final break.

1014
00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:01.159
When the defense team took the stage, their entire argument

1015
00:55:01.239 --> 00:55:05.199
came down to one sentence, No crime was committed. What

1016
00:55:05.239 --> 00:55:07.880
the state was calling a brutal murder scene was actually

1017
00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:11.920
just the tragic aftermath of a sudden natural death, a

1018
00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:16.159
medical emergency that police had completely misread because of sloppy

1019
00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:19.679
investigative work and a desperate desire to close a case.

1020
00:55:20.360 --> 00:55:23.599
To counter the state's pathologists, the defense brought out their

1021
00:55:23.599 --> 00:55:27.480
own heavy hitters, forensic experts doctor Michael Boden and doctor

1022
00:55:27.559 --> 00:55:31.280
John Marraccini, and when they looked under the microscope, they

1023
00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:34.559
saw a completely different cause of death. Where the state

1024
00:55:34.679 --> 00:55:37.960
saw strangulation, the defense saw a heart that had been

1025
00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:42.440
silently failing from the inside out. Bodin and Marrucini discovered

1026
00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:47.440
scarring and active inflammation in Lena's heart tissue, microscopic damage,

1027
00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:51.599
they argued the medical examiner's office had completely missed. They

1028
00:55:51.679 --> 00:55:56.719
concluded she was suffering from undiagnosed myocarditis, likely triggered by

1029
00:55:56.719 --> 00:56:00.800
that viral infection flagged during her pregnancy, which caused her

1030
00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:04.800
heart to suddenly short circuit into a fatal arrhythmia, and

1031
00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:08.199
that pink, frothy fluid that poured from her mouth. Doctor

1032
00:56:08.199 --> 00:56:12.559
Bodden testified that heavy fluid saturated lungs are the absolute

1033
00:56:12.679 --> 00:56:17.840
textbook hallmark of congestive heart failure and pulmonary edema. He

1034
00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:20.360
told the jury point blank, it was a clear sign

1035
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:23.159
of a medical collapse, not a strangulation.

1036
00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:26.440
So I'm a little confused about the heart here, because

1037
00:56:26.480 --> 00:56:29.280
you said that the heart. The two pathologists who initially

1038
00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:31.159
did it said that it looked healthy, it was a

1039
00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:31.800
normal weight.

1040
00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:35.519
It just goes to show you how two scientists can

1041
00:56:35.559 --> 00:56:38.719
look at the same thing and come to very different conclusions.

1042
00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:42.199
So frustrating if you're the person that's on trial for murder. Yes,

1043
00:56:42.760 --> 00:56:46.480
remind us about the viral infection that was flagged during pregnancy.

1044
00:56:46.639 --> 00:56:50.519
Yeah, I believe it's called cytomegalovirus, and it was something

1045
00:56:50.559 --> 00:56:53.639
that was detected but not followed up on that she

1046
00:56:53.760 --> 00:56:56.400
had high levels. It's a common virus that a lot

1047
00:56:56.400 --> 00:56:59.039
of people have, but the levels that she had it

1048
00:56:59.079 --> 00:56:59.880
were very high.

1049
00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:03.320
So they're saying that left permanent damage exactly. Also, kudos

1050
00:57:03.360 --> 00:57:04.719
to you for saying that word.

1051
00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:08.559
Thank you. In their cross examination, the prosecutor not so

1052
00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:12.360
subtly reminded the jury that doctor Michael Boden was being

1053
00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:16.559
paid to render his opinion. Here's a clip, Doctor Voon.

1054
00:57:16.840 --> 00:57:20.039
It is that your thirty thousand dollars opinion today?

1055
00:57:20.119 --> 00:57:25.960
Your own our objection. This is improper. My opinion is independent.

1056
00:57:26.039 --> 00:57:29.559
Most of my opinions are given done pro bono. And

1057
00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:33.079
if I were testifying for you for the prosecution as

1058
00:57:33.079 --> 00:57:35.480
I usually do, or for the defense as in this,

1059
00:57:36.679 --> 00:57:39.000
I didn't ask your honor. I want to answer the

1060
00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:43.400
question that you accused me of being unethical. No, sir,

1061
00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:49.400
hi question, Judge, I don't get I'm sorry. Yeah, my

1062
00:57:49.599 --> 00:57:54.800
opinions are no way affected by whether I'm being paid

1063
00:57:55.679 --> 00:57:59.039
for my time or who is paying me. That would

1064
00:57:59.079 --> 00:58:02.880
be the exact same opinion. And I think that, yes,

1065
00:58:02.960 --> 00:58:08.800
in this instance, I'm getting paid whatever you say, but

1066
00:58:08.920 --> 00:58:10.719
has nothing to do with my opinion.

1067
00:58:10.360 --> 00:58:10.760
In the matter.

1068
00:58:13.079 --> 00:58:16.400
Doctor Boden getting a little a little his hackles raised

1069
00:58:16.440 --> 00:58:18.039
a little bit there, Yeah.

1070
00:58:17.719 --> 00:58:20.320
For sure, And I just want to say, I'm sorry,

1071
00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:23.559
doctor Michael Bodden for saying that you're two hundred years old.

1072
00:58:23.559 --> 00:58:24.559
That wasn't very nice of me.

1073
00:58:24.960 --> 00:58:28.000
We talk about this all the time with experts in

1074
00:58:28.079 --> 00:58:31.719
testimony getting paid, and you know, I totally understand what

1075
00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:34.360
he's saying there is that my opinion is not going

1076
00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:36.920
to be swayed. I'm a professional, it's not going to

1077
00:58:36.960 --> 00:58:38.119
be swayed by being paid.

1078
00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:42.280
But it's always we're hired because you have that opinion exactly.

1079
00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:44.199
So I always have a hard time with that.

1080
00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:47.159
I feel like if I was a juror, I would

1081
00:58:47.159 --> 00:58:50.360
discount a lot of that testimony from expert witness.

1082
00:58:50.440 --> 00:58:52.000
Yeah, because you're always going to be able to find

1083
00:58:52.039 --> 00:58:55.800
somebody to testify the way that you want to. As

1084
00:58:55.840 --> 00:58:58.679
for the neck injuries, the defense accounted for them. Inch

1085
00:58:58.719 --> 00:59:03.000
by inch, Marucini literally mapped out the external scrapes on

1086
00:59:03.079 --> 00:59:07.239
Lena's neck and shoulder, matching them against three specific points

1087
00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:10.800
of contact on that metal magazine rack, proving she could

1088
00:59:10.840 --> 00:59:14.320
have easily caused those marks by collapsing straight onto it,

1089
00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:17.719
and the bleeding buried deep in her neck muscles. The

1090
00:59:17.760 --> 00:59:21.159
defense argued that wasn't from a killer's hands, It was

1091
00:59:21.199 --> 00:59:24.639
from the frantic, brutal reality of the life saving efforts

1092
00:59:24.679 --> 00:59:29.760
that followed a panicked husband doing amateur CPR, paramedics desperately

1093
00:59:29.800 --> 00:59:33.639
forcing breathing tubes down a blocked airway, and first responders

1094
00:59:33.719 --> 00:59:36.840
dragging her limp body across a hard floor just to

1095
00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:40.320
give themselves room to work. From there, the defense went

1096
00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:44.320
to work picking apart the state's circumstantial clues one by one.

1097
00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:48.679
That warm Mercedes engine, the garage wasn't air conditioned, and

1098
00:59:48.719 --> 00:59:51.519
the car was parked inches away from a massive heat

1099
00:59:51.559 --> 00:59:56.159
emitting refrigerator. Plus there was no GPS data, no toll records,

1100
00:59:56.440 --> 00:59:59.159
and no gait camera footage showing that the car ever

1101
00:59:59.239 --> 01:00:02.320
left the neighborhood that morning. And what about the neatly

1102
01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:06.199
plumped pillows and the unslept in bed. The defense reminded

1103
01:00:06.199 --> 01:00:09.199
the jury that paramedics had ripped the duvet off the

1104
01:00:09.239 --> 01:00:12.920
mattress to wrap Lena's body for transport, so how could

1105
01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:15.440
they say that one side of the bed hadn't been

1106
01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:20.199
disturbed and Adam's expensive watch and designer jeans. The defense

1107
01:00:20.239 --> 01:00:24.239
pointed to Captain Joseph Carman, the first paramedic through the door.

1108
01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:27.800
He testified under oath that he found Adam upstairs in

1109
01:00:27.840 --> 01:00:30.760
boxer shorts and a T shirt, drenched in sweat and

1110
01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:35.039
fluid from doing CPR. Whatever clothes Adam put on after

1111
01:00:35.119 --> 01:00:38.400
his wife was rushed away didn't change the reality of

1112
01:00:38.440 --> 01:00:41.920
how he was initially dressed. But the defense saved the

1113
01:00:41.920 --> 01:00:46.159
most dramatic moment for the police department itself. They exposed

1114
01:00:46.199 --> 01:00:49.639
that the lead detective on the case, Anthony Angulo, who

1115
01:00:49.679 --> 01:00:51.599
happened to be a rookie who had never led a

1116
01:00:51.599 --> 01:00:55.840
homicide investigation in his life, had a secret romantic affair

1117
01:00:55.960 --> 01:00:59.639
with Anna Howell, the crime scene technician processing the house

1118
01:00:59.719 --> 01:01:03.039
under his command. In a dramatic moment of the trial,

1119
01:01:03.400 --> 01:01:07.519
Howell denied the relationship under oath before finally being forced

1120
01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:11.360
to admit it. Here's a clip from that fiery exchange.

1121
01:01:11.840 --> 01:01:13.800
You're married, right, I.

1122
01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:16.039
Am married and I have three kids.

1123
01:01:17.159 --> 01:01:18.119
My job.

1124
01:01:19.320 --> 01:01:23.760
Is important to me and it has not No, this

1125
01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:29.239
is very important, sir, because this is my life. Here, okay,

1126
01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:32.320
my testimony here about what I did on the crime

1127
01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:36.280
scene that day. I have never had any issues the

1128
01:01:36.360 --> 01:01:38.719
whole entire ten plus years that I've worked for the

1129
01:01:38.719 --> 01:01:39.519
City of Avas or a.

1130
01:01:39.559 --> 01:01:42.480
Police I would request the court to admonish the witness

1131
01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:43.199
to answer the question.

1132
01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:47.840
You answer the questions the best of your abilities. Simple question, ma'am.

1133
01:01:47.960 --> 01:01:49.119
Are you married yes?

1134
01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:51.719
Did you have an affair with Detective Angula?

1135
01:01:51.880 --> 01:01:54.199
Yes, and my husband is well aware of it, sir.

1136
01:01:54.280 --> 01:01:57.000
And I am happily married and I don't have any

1137
01:01:57.039 --> 01:01:58.559
issues with that any longer.

1138
01:01:59.199 --> 01:02:02.519
So this was amatic moment in the courtroom. I'm not

1139
01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:05.400
sure it really matters that much, to be honest.

1140
01:02:05.239 --> 01:02:07.400
I'm surprised the judge allowed that conversation.

1141
01:02:08.079 --> 01:02:08.320
Yeah.

1142
01:02:08.320 --> 01:02:12.840
The judge seemed to be very permissive, permissive with allowing

1143
01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:14.800
people to do whatever. Every I watched a lot of

1144
01:02:14.840 --> 01:02:18.400
the court the trial, and anytime anyone would object, she

1145
01:02:19.159 --> 01:02:23.840
mostly with default to overrule. The defense argued that this

1146
01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:28.480
relationship completely tanked the integrity of the investigation. They pointed

1147
01:02:28.480 --> 01:02:32.760
directly to Detective Angulo's baffling decision to leave the bathroom

1148
01:02:32.800 --> 01:02:37.559
magazine rack behind the defense's own crime scene expert digitally

1149
01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:41.920
enhanced photos of those discarded magazines and the bathroom wall,

1150
01:02:42.400 --> 01:02:46.559
showing clear traces of spray, hand transfer and bodily fluids.

1151
01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:50.039
Had the police actually impounded that rack instead of leaving

1152
01:02:50.079 --> 01:02:53.480
it behind, the defense argued the science would have proven

1153
01:02:53.559 --> 01:02:57.320
that Lena fell exactly where Adams said she did. And

1154
01:02:57.400 --> 01:02:59.440
if the jury needed any more reason to doubt the

1155
01:02:59.440 --> 01:03:02.960
state's case, the defense reminded them that Adam filed his

1156
01:03:03.079 --> 01:03:07.280
formal complaint against Chief Medical Examiner doctor Heima on the

1157
01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:11.119
exact same day Heima suddenly decided to sign off on

1158
01:03:11.159 --> 01:03:15.480
the homicide ruling after a year of stalling. They characterized

1159
01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:19.039
doctor Heima as an embarrassed bureaucrat making a quarter million

1160
01:03:19.079 --> 01:03:21.920
dollars a year who signed the homicide ruling to put

1161
01:03:21.960 --> 01:03:26.760
an end to Adam's complaint. Finally, Adam's defense team leaned

1162
01:03:26.800 --> 01:03:29.719
into the glaring absence of a motive. There was no

1163
01:03:29.840 --> 01:03:33.920
mounting debt, no secret life insurance policy, no affairs, and

1164
01:03:34.079 --> 01:03:37.840
zero history of domestic violence. The defense asked the jury

1165
01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:41.039
a simple question, why would a man who deeply loved

1166
01:03:41.039 --> 01:03:45.000
his wife, whose family adored her, suddenly destroy his entire

1167
01:03:45.079 --> 01:03:47.880
world in the middle of the night for absolutely no

1168
01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:50.880
reason at all. Of all the witnesses to take the

1169
01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:54.079
stand during the trial, none sat in a more complicated

1170
01:03:54.119 --> 01:03:58.760
position than Frieda Eismann. Freeda was Lena's mother, but she

1171
01:03:58.920 --> 01:04:02.440
was testifying for them defense for the jury watching from

1172
01:04:02.480 --> 01:04:06.679
the box, that fact alone must have spoken volumes. Frieda

1173
01:04:06.760 --> 01:04:08.639
told the court that when she got the call that

1174
01:04:08.800 --> 01:04:13.239
Lina had collapsed, she was completely devastated, but she wasn't

1175
01:04:13.400 --> 01:04:17.239
entirely surprised. She revealed that her daughter had a lifelong

1176
01:04:17.320 --> 01:04:20.599
history of health issues, fainting at least ten to twelve

1177
01:04:20.639 --> 01:04:25.559
times over the years. Lena suffered from blinding headaches, chronic exhaustion,

1178
01:04:26.039 --> 01:04:29.280
and terrifying episodes where her legs would completely give out,

1179
01:04:29.679 --> 01:04:33.199
leaving her unable to even care for her kids. In fact,

1180
01:04:33.280 --> 01:04:36.679
Freda testified that Lena had been visibly ill just two

1181
01:04:36.760 --> 01:04:40.679
days before she died. She also dropped a bombshell about

1182
01:04:40.679 --> 01:04:43.960
the police department, telling the jury that she had desperately

1183
01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:46.920
tried to share this medical history with the lead detective,

1184
01:04:47.199 --> 01:04:51.000
Anthony Angulo. Freda claimed that she and her family called

1185
01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:54.800
Angulo twenty five to thirty times, but he never returned

1186
01:04:54.800 --> 01:04:57.840
a single call. When he finally agreed to sit down

1187
01:04:57.880 --> 01:05:00.440
with them six months later, she said he was in

1188
01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:04.079
a rush and completely brushed off the information about Lina's

1189
01:05:04.119 --> 01:05:07.800
fainting spells. According to Freda, he flat out told her

1190
01:05:07.880 --> 01:05:11.400
it was a murder case and he wasn't interested when

1191
01:05:11.400 --> 01:05:14.079
it came to Adam. After having lived with the couple

1192
01:05:14.119 --> 01:05:16.800
for five months and talking to her daughter three to

1193
01:05:16.880 --> 01:05:20.960
five times every single day, Frieda repeated that Adam felt

1194
01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:24.039
like her own son. She swore under oath that he

1195
01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:26.800
had never once raised his voice, never laid a finger

1196
01:05:26.840 --> 01:05:30.000
on Lina, and that she believed without a doubt that

1197
01:05:30.119 --> 01:05:33.039
he had absolutely nothing to do with her daughter's death.

1198
01:05:33.679 --> 01:05:37.519
She also went straight after the prosecution's timeline. An officer

1199
01:05:37.599 --> 01:05:41.880
named Robert Myers had previously testified that he heard a distraught

1200
01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:45.440
Freda wailing at the hospital, demanding to know what Adam

1201
01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:48.719
did to her daughter, and that Adam had aggressively snapped

1202
01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:51.440
back at her. Frieda looked right at the jury and

1203
01:05:51.480 --> 01:05:56.719
told them that conversation never happened. Her testimony created drama.

1204
01:05:56.800 --> 01:06:01.079
During the prosecutor's closing arguments, he suggest that Frieda was

1205
01:06:01.119 --> 01:06:04.320
motivated to support Adam in order to keep access to

1206
01:06:04.360 --> 01:06:08.920
her grandchildren. Sitting in the gallery, Frieda could not stay silent.

1207
01:06:09.280 --> 01:06:09.920
Here's a clip.

1208
01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:13.199
Do you think for a second she would be seeing

1209
01:06:13.199 --> 01:06:16.920
her grandchildren with her husband in Italy and her son

1210
01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:17.639
in Denmark.

1211
01:06:17.800 --> 01:06:18.760
She's all alone here.

1212
01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:22.320
This is her tie, the joy of her life.

1213
01:06:23.440 --> 01:06:25.119
You think she's going to go against him?

1214
01:06:25.320 --> 01:06:26.679
Are you accusing me any life?

1215
01:06:31.079 --> 01:06:33.119
All right, I'm not going to have any outbursts from

1216
01:06:33.159 --> 01:06:33.760
the audience.

1217
01:06:33.920 --> 01:06:38.880
You can have a seat outside, Thank you, Bernie.

1218
01:06:40.440 --> 01:06:41.960
I would never ever.

1219
01:06:43.239 --> 01:06:47.880
Ever accuse her of want members the jury disregard the

1220
01:06:47.920 --> 01:06:49.440
outbursts from the family member.

1221
01:06:49.480 --> 01:06:51.719
Are you able to do that?

1222
01:06:51.719 --> 01:06:55.360
That cannot come into factor in your deliberations. I did

1223
01:06:55.400 --> 01:06:57.559
not hear the outburst. Can you repeat what she said?

1224
01:06:57.719 --> 01:06:59.760
She does that? Are you calling me a liar? She

1225
01:07:00.360 --> 01:07:02.079
was sitting in the gallery, so it wasn't as clear,

1226
01:07:02.159 --> 01:07:06.039
but yeah, she definitely was. Could not remain silent after

1227
01:07:06.079 --> 01:07:06.639
that point.

1228
01:07:06.960 --> 01:07:09.320
That's bananas to me what they are trying to say

1229
01:07:09.360 --> 01:07:12.320
about her, Like what mother would would say that you

1230
01:07:12.400 --> 01:07:14.719
know their son in law was innocent unless you truly

1231
01:07:14.719 --> 01:07:15.400
felt that way.

1232
01:07:15.559 --> 01:07:18.280
Yeah, no, I agree with you. The jury went behind

1233
01:07:18.280 --> 01:07:21.480
closed doors to begin deliberating at ten o'clock in the morning.

1234
01:07:21.880 --> 01:07:24.639
They would stay in that room for eight hours. During

1235
01:07:24.679 --> 01:07:26.800
that time, they sent just a single note back to

1236
01:07:26.880 --> 01:07:30.000
the judge. They wanted to see the microscopic slides of

1237
01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:34.159
Lena's heart, the ones that the defense expert, doctor John Marraccini,

1238
01:07:34.559 --> 01:07:38.199
had used to show the cellular inflammation during his testimony,

1239
01:07:38.639 --> 01:07:41.039
but the judge had to turn them down. Because the

1240
01:07:41.079 --> 01:07:43.400
slides had only been used as a visual aid on

1241
01:07:43.440 --> 01:07:46.960
the stand and never formally entered as physical exhibits, they

1242
01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:50.159
legally couldn't be sent back to the jury room even

1243
01:07:50.199 --> 01:07:53.559
without the physical slides in hand. That one request made

1244
01:07:53.559 --> 01:07:56.199
it clear where the jury's heads were at. Out of

1245
01:07:56.239 --> 01:07:59.000
everything they had been bombarded with over the weeks, the

1246
01:07:59.119 --> 01:08:03.119
jailhouse tape, the warm Mercedes engine, the timeline, the forensic

1247
01:08:03.159 --> 01:08:06.039
tech affair, the one thing that they were obsessing over

1248
01:08:06.320 --> 01:08:09.920
was Lena's heart. Just before sixth that evening, they filed

1249
01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:13.119
back into the courtroom. The verdict was not guilty.

1250
01:08:13.599 --> 01:08:15.280
I was such a good girl and I didn't even

1251
01:08:15.280 --> 01:08:17.279
look at the script beforehand because I thought you were

1252
01:08:17.319 --> 01:08:19.199
going to do that thing where you're like, well, what

1253
01:08:19.319 --> 01:08:19.800
do you think?

1254
01:08:19.840 --> 01:08:21.279
Well, what were you going to say? If I had

1255
01:08:21.319 --> 01:08:21.720
asked you.

1256
01:08:21.680 --> 01:08:24.000
That, I would have come with not guilty as well.

1257
01:08:24.399 --> 01:08:27.720
The jury foreman, Bernard Jennings, spoke after the trial to

1258
01:08:27.800 --> 01:08:30.720
explain how they got there. He said they didn't spot

1259
01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:34.000
a single smoking gun that cleared at him, but rather

1260
01:08:34.119 --> 01:08:37.279
they found reasonable doubt in how the entire police case

1261
01:08:37.319 --> 01:08:41.560
fell apart under scrutiny. Jennings explained there was a plethora

1262
01:08:41.640 --> 01:08:44.680
of circumstances that led to reasonable doubt. There wasn't just

1263
01:08:44.800 --> 01:08:48.600
one circumstance. He also admitted that after looking at all

1264
01:08:48.600 --> 01:08:52.960
the evidence, he personally believed the defense's theory that Lena's

1265
01:08:52.960 --> 01:08:55.920
heart simply gave out and she fell forward into the

1266
01:08:55.960 --> 01:08:59.319
magazine wreck. Five years after his wife died on their

1267
01:08:59.319 --> 01:09:02.760
bathroom floor, or Adam Kaufman walked out of the Miami

1268
01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:07.399
Courthouse a freeman. On June fifth, twenty twelve, a jury

1269
01:09:07.439 --> 01:09:10.399
decided that the State of Florida hadn't proven that Lena

1270
01:09:10.520 --> 01:09:13.520
Kaufman was murdered in the eyes of the law. A

1271
01:09:13.560 --> 01:09:16.319
not guilty verdict doesn't mean the jury knew for a

1272
01:09:16.359 --> 01:09:19.680
fact that Adam was innocent. It just means the evidence

1273
01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:23.119
couldn't clear the bar of reasonable doubt, the standard for

1274
01:09:23.199 --> 01:09:26.079
a guilty verdict in our legal system. At the end

1275
01:09:26.119 --> 01:09:29.119
of the day, two sets of top tier forensic experts

1276
01:09:29.399 --> 01:09:33.119
looked at the exact same tissue slides and reached completely

1277
01:09:33.159 --> 01:09:37.199
opposite conclusions. There were also questions of physical evidence being

1278
01:09:37.239 --> 01:09:41.760
ignored and allegations of unethical conduct. In these situations, the

1279
01:09:41.800 --> 01:09:46.359
system is designed to default to a not guilty verdict. Sadly,

1280
01:09:46.399 --> 01:09:49.159
when it comes to the question of why Lena Kaufman died,

1281
01:09:49.560 --> 01:09:52.640
there will always be questions. Was her heart a ticking

1282
01:09:52.680 --> 01:09:55.680
time bomb that chose that evening to give out, or

1283
01:09:55.720 --> 01:09:58.520
did her husband get away with murder? We may never

1284
01:09:58.600 --> 01:10:02.439
know for sure. Rest in peace, Lena. There are a

1285
01:10:02.479 --> 01:10:05.239
few things I want to discuss before a weird wrap up.

1286
01:10:05.520 --> 01:10:08.279
So you said you were expecting a not guilty verdict.

1287
01:10:08.880 --> 01:10:12.479
Do you believe that he is innocent? That's different than

1288
01:10:12.840 --> 01:10:15.039
saying there wasn't enough evidence to convict him.

1289
01:10:15.159 --> 01:10:17.479
Yes, I tend to think he is innocent.

1290
01:10:17.960 --> 01:10:19.079
And why do you believe that?

1291
01:10:19.479 --> 01:10:21.560
I don't know there just didn't seem to be like

1292
01:10:21.640 --> 01:10:24.159
a ton of evidence. And I think like the evidence

1293
01:10:24.199 --> 01:10:27.119
of like the damage to her throat could be explained

1294
01:10:27.199 --> 01:10:31.960
by the attempted intubations and you know, the medical procedures.

1295
01:10:32.239 --> 01:10:33.239
Yeah, it's it is.

1296
01:10:33.199 --> 01:10:35.039
Hard though, because we don't know what do you think?

1297
01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:39.000
I also think he is most likely innocent. I definitely

1298
01:10:39.079 --> 01:10:42.399
agree with the jury's verdict. There wasn't enough to convict him.

1299
01:10:42.479 --> 01:10:46.560
I do have some question about whether he actually killed

1300
01:10:46.560 --> 01:10:48.880
her or not. I think a lot of times I

1301
01:10:48.880 --> 01:10:52.600
think when somebody is strangled, like it leaves like hand

1302
01:10:52.920 --> 01:10:55.319
marks around their neck. And I never read anything about

1303
01:10:55.319 --> 01:10:58.000
any kind of hand marks or you know, prints around

1304
01:10:58.000 --> 01:10:58.319
her neck.

1305
01:10:58.479 --> 01:11:00.920
And if she was being strangled to such a degree

1306
01:11:00.960 --> 01:11:03.119
that you know, the damage went through all the layers

1307
01:11:03.119 --> 01:11:06.560
over her neck, the hyoid bone, which is pretty easily

1308
01:11:06.600 --> 01:11:10.119
broken being intact, I think is a little bit of

1309
01:11:10.159 --> 01:11:10.920
evidence there too.

1310
01:11:11.079 --> 01:11:11.600
Yeah, I think.

1311
01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:14.800
And there was no history of abuse, right and or

1312
01:11:14.800 --> 01:11:16.079
even on unkind word.

1313
01:11:16.199 --> 01:11:18.800
Really yeah, if there had been like more red flags,

1314
01:11:18.840 --> 01:11:21.880
then I might have leaned a little more towards potential guilt.

1315
01:11:22.640 --> 01:11:24.399
I mean, really, the biggest dread flag to me is

1316
01:11:24.439 --> 01:11:25.840
he started dating six.

1317
01:11:25.640 --> 01:11:28.920
Weeks after, Although that gives me a huge ick factor.

1318
01:11:29.560 --> 01:11:32.159
I think that a lot of men just don't like

1319
01:11:32.239 --> 01:11:35.119
to be alone. And you had two young kids, and yeah, right,

1320
01:11:35.199 --> 01:11:37.920
no that is not cool. But I feel like we

1321
01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:39.880
judge people in that a lot, and until you're in

1322
01:11:39.920 --> 01:11:43.119
that situation, I don't know. Yeah, you better not date

1323
01:11:43.199 --> 01:11:44.520
six weeks after I die.

1324
01:11:44.840 --> 01:11:47.479
Do you think the affair between the lead detective and

1325
01:11:47.720 --> 01:11:50.960
the evidence technician was relevant at all?

1326
01:11:51.359 --> 01:11:51.520
Now?

1327
01:11:52.079 --> 01:11:53.239
Yeah, I don't think there.

1328
01:11:53.600 --> 01:11:54.640
No, I don't think so.

1329
01:11:55.159 --> 01:11:57.159
Not even if they were having an affair, and I

1330
01:11:57.239 --> 01:12:00.119
believe she testified that the affair was over by the

1331
01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:03.239
time of this investigation. They were working together on a

1332
01:12:03.239 --> 01:12:06.199
professional level, which they had been doing for years. Even

1333
01:12:06.239 --> 01:12:08.119
if they were having an affair, I'm not sure that

1334
01:12:08.159 --> 01:12:10.840
would really taint the collection of evidence.

1335
01:12:11.079 --> 01:12:14.399
Yeah, I'm super naive though in those situations, But yeah,

1336
01:12:14.399 --> 01:12:17.960
I wouldn't think that they would collaborate and you know,

1337
01:12:18.279 --> 01:12:20.880
try to sway the evidence in a certain direction.

1338
01:12:21.119 --> 01:12:23.720
Right, And the fact that they didn't collect the magazine

1339
01:12:23.800 --> 01:12:26.680
rack as evidence, I think that was just a mistake.

1340
01:12:26.840 --> 01:12:29.680
It wasn't like, right, not collecting that isn't going to

1341
01:12:29.720 --> 01:12:33.079
help their case against him. For murder. So I think

1342
01:12:33.159 --> 01:12:36.239
it was just an oversight, a mistake, and yeah, they

1343
01:12:36.239 --> 01:12:36.720
should have.

1344
01:12:36.880 --> 01:12:39.880
But just to clarify, you said that the magazine rack

1345
01:12:40.039 --> 01:12:43.039
did have her DNA on it and some of them. No, Oh,

1346
01:12:43.079 --> 01:12:43.840
I thought you just said that.

1347
01:12:44.119 --> 01:12:46.920
No, what I said was that the photos that they

1348
01:12:46.960 --> 01:12:50.159
took of it, the defense enhanced those photos and you

1349
01:12:50.199 --> 01:12:52.880
could see evidence of like the spray tand that she

1350
01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:55.760
had like that her face had been lying against it potentially,

1351
01:12:55.800 --> 01:12:58.399
but they wouldn't. They should have tested it for DNA,

1352
01:12:58.479 --> 01:12:59.319
but they didn't.

1353
01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:01.920
Do you have any follow up what happened to Adam?

1354
01:13:02.319 --> 01:13:04.800
No, I wasn't able to track down any information about

1355
01:13:04.800 --> 01:13:07.760
what's happened to him since this trial. He was interviewed

1356
01:13:07.760 --> 01:13:10.319
in the forty eight Hours episode I watched, which was

1357
01:13:10.359 --> 01:13:13.920
interesting and actually helpful for me to kind of make

1358
01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:16.000
up my mind because the one thing they did that

1359
01:13:16.039 --> 01:13:20.199
I really appreciated is they brought in their own medical expert, yeah,

1360
01:13:20.239 --> 01:13:23.640
to look at the evidence. And their medical expert came

1361
01:13:23.680 --> 01:13:26.960
back and said, I am very confident that this was

1362
01:13:27.880 --> 01:13:30.319
a heart issue that Lena had. Like looking at the

1363
01:13:31.079 --> 01:13:35.960
slides with her cells, there was definitely signs of an

1364
01:13:35.960 --> 01:13:38.920
issue there. Interesting, so That made me feel more confident

1365
01:13:38.920 --> 01:13:42.520
because this person was pretty independent of either the prosecution

1366
01:13:42.680 --> 01:13:43.239
or the defense.

1367
01:13:43.479 --> 01:13:47.359
I had mentioned the long QT syndrome and I dismissed

1368
01:13:47.399 --> 01:13:50.840
it because she didn't have a history of exhaustion. But

1369
01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:54.640
then when her mother testified, she did mention the exhaustion,

1370
01:13:54.760 --> 01:13:57.000
so I am a little curious about that. Yeah, still

1371
01:13:57.199 --> 01:14:00.159
a bit tragic. I mean, such a young woman with

1372
01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:03.800
two young kids to die. Yeah, really sad situation.

1373
01:14:04.479 --> 01:14:07.319
And fortunately, if you believe that Adam's innocent, it was

1374
01:14:07.319 --> 01:14:10.920
a situation not made worse by putting him in prison

1375
01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:13.319
and you know, not being there for his children.

1376
01:14:13.520 --> 01:14:13.760
Yeah.

1377
01:14:13.800 --> 01:14:16.840
True, But definitely interested to know what all of you

1378
01:14:16.880 --> 01:14:26.159
think as well. This episode will be published on June

1379
01:14:26.159 --> 01:14:28.880
twenty second for most people, which is the day after

1380
01:14:29.039 --> 01:14:32.159
Father's Day, since I don't get a special episode with

1381
01:14:32.399 --> 01:14:35.159
either of our children, which is my own fault. It's

1382
01:14:35.560 --> 01:14:37.359
it's not their fault, they're your fault.

1383
01:14:37.479 --> 01:14:40.279
Why would it be my fault? I write.

1384
01:14:41.439 --> 01:14:43.239
You actually put in the work to write that, But

1385
01:14:43.279 --> 01:14:45.039
it does make me a little bit sad. But I

1386
01:14:45.079 --> 01:14:48.760
did want to talk about some Father's Day traditions around

1387
01:14:48.960 --> 01:14:49.479
the world.

1388
01:14:50.039 --> 01:14:53.600
In Germany, Father's Day is observed on Ascension Day, the

1389
01:14:53.640 --> 01:14:57.000
fortieth day after Easter, and is actually a public holiday

1390
01:14:57.279 --> 01:14:59.920
rather than traditional family time. It is known as Men

1391
01:15:00.159 --> 01:15:02.960
Day or Gentlemen's Day. Groups of men and bark on

1392
01:15:03.119 --> 01:15:07.159
hiking or biking tours, pulling wooden wagons filled with beer,

1393
01:15:07.279 --> 01:15:08.880
wine and hardy food.

1394
01:15:09.119 --> 01:15:11.359
Kind of a nice tradition. Yeah, men just go out

1395
01:15:11.359 --> 01:15:14.079
and do whatever they want for that day. Sure, some

1396
01:15:14.159 --> 01:15:16.960
men go golfing on Father's Day here, that can I

1397
01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:19.199
think I've done that maybe once or twice way back

1398
01:15:19.239 --> 01:15:19.720
in the day.

1399
01:15:19.800 --> 01:15:22.560
But yeah, when women for Mother's Day, we are expected

1400
01:15:22.600 --> 01:15:25.000
to spend the day with our kids and husbands. But

1401
01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:28.399
that's okay. In Mexico, Father's Day is celebrated every year

1402
01:15:28.439 --> 01:15:31.119
on the third Sunday in June. Thousands of dads and

1403
01:15:31.159 --> 01:15:34.479
their families flock to a national park for a half marathon.

1404
01:15:34.880 --> 01:15:38.600
There is even a highly competitive dedicated Father and Sun division.

1405
01:15:39.239 --> 01:15:43.399
After the athletic achievement is rewarded with huge citywide street

1406
01:15:43.479 --> 01:15:46.680
parties with live music and plenty of traditional food.

1407
01:15:46.920 --> 01:15:48.680
Just to be clear, I do not want to run

1408
01:15:48.720 --> 01:15:50.800
a half marathon on Father's Day.

1409
01:15:50.960 --> 01:15:51.840
Could if you wanted to.

1410
01:15:52.159 --> 01:15:54.960
Our son and I did run a five k together

1411
01:15:55.039 --> 01:15:56.680
once and that was that was a lot of fun.

1412
01:15:57.239 --> 01:15:58.880
He beat me by a lot, but.

1413
01:15:58.880 --> 01:16:02.239
It's a pretty good right. In Japan, alongside high end

1414
01:16:02.319 --> 01:16:05.479
saki or a meal of fresh crab, it is incredibly

1415
01:16:05.520 --> 01:16:09.720
popular to give dad perfectly grown fresh round or mat fruit,

1416
01:16:10.119 --> 01:16:14.199
flawless melons or peaches, meticulously raised and presented and elegant

1417
01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:17.479
silk lined wooden boxes can cost upwards of one hundred

1418
01:16:17.520 --> 01:16:20.600
dollars or more and are seen as the ultimate sign

1419
01:16:20.960 --> 01:16:22.279
of thoughtful gratitude.

1420
01:16:22.359 --> 01:16:25.000
One hundred dollars for a piece of fruit seems like

1421
01:16:25.039 --> 01:16:25.359
a lot.

1422
01:16:25.640 --> 01:16:29.079
Yeah. In Nepal, Father's Day occurs in late August or

1423
01:16:29.119 --> 01:16:32.520
early September, based on the lunar calendar, referred to as

1424
01:16:32.640 --> 01:16:37.119
go Karna Osi. Celebration literally translates to the day for

1425
01:16:37.279 --> 01:16:41.119
looking at father's face. Children perform a beautiful sign of

1426
01:16:41.119 --> 01:16:44.079
respect where sons touch their heads to their father's feet

1427
01:16:44.359 --> 01:16:47.359
and daughters touch their heads to their father's hands. It

1428
01:16:47.399 --> 01:16:51.359
is also deeply focused on honoring ancestry. Those whose fathers

1429
01:16:51.399 --> 01:16:55.039
have passed away make pilgrimages to sacred temples to perform

1430
01:16:55.199 --> 01:16:57.319
rituals and offer food in their memory.

1431
01:16:57.560 --> 01:16:59.880
I don't need to have the kids touching my hands,

1432
01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:02.039
their feet with their face. But I like the idea

1433
01:17:02.039 --> 01:17:05.039
of a day for looking at father's face. They could

1434
01:17:05.039 --> 01:17:07.199
just look at my face and admire it for a while.

1435
01:17:07.359 --> 01:17:09.760
That I mean, you have a lovely face. Yes, well

1436
01:17:10.079 --> 01:17:12.479
that's what we're doing yet. But I hope you have

1437
01:17:12.520 --> 01:17:14.680
a great Father's Day. I hope all the dads that

1438
01:17:14.720 --> 01:17:18.199
are listening, both of them, have a wonderful Father's Day too.

1439
01:17:18.319 --> 01:17:20.640
Well, interesting because I was looking at our audience. We

1440
01:17:20.680 --> 01:17:23.520
know that our audience is mostly women, but do you

1441
01:17:23.600 --> 01:17:27.399
know women the percentages of men that listen.

1442
01:17:27.199 --> 01:17:29.960
To I would guess maybe twelve percent.

1443
01:17:30.000 --> 01:17:32.800
So eight and a half percent of our listeners are men.

1444
01:17:33.479 --> 01:17:36.560
But interestingly, if I look at the Just the Facts

1445
01:17:36.880 --> 01:17:40.560
podcast that we have launched, twelve percent of those listeners

1446
01:17:40.600 --> 01:17:43.439
are men. So men don't like banter as much. They

1447
01:17:43.520 --> 01:17:45.000
like to get straight to the point.

1448
01:17:45.319 --> 01:17:49.840
Or the men who listen to our podcast, yes specifically, Well, yes.

1449
01:17:49.800 --> 01:17:52.520
We wish you all a happy Father's Day. We hope

1450
01:17:52.520 --> 01:17:55.239
you had a happy Father's Day. If it's the day

1451
01:17:55.279 --> 01:17:57.920
after that you're listening to this, but yeah, we.

1452
01:17:58.239 --> 01:18:00.800
It's a great if you've got a good one, celebrate that.

1453
01:18:00.840 --> 01:18:03.520
But you know that's all. I hope you celebrated in yesterday,

1454
01:18:03.840 --> 01:18:05.960
but you would take a late Father's Day.

1455
01:18:06.239 --> 01:18:09.159
Yeah, right, absolutely, you can celebrate me any day you'd like.

1456
01:18:09.399 --> 01:18:12.039
Okay, well we do most days. I'm still waiting for

1457
01:18:12.079 --> 01:18:15.119
my superpowers to kick in from the oreo. M h yeah,

1458
01:18:15.119 --> 01:18:17.079
I haven't kicked in, no superpowers, how about you.

1459
01:18:17.479 --> 01:18:19.560
Well, my tongue turned green, but other than that, it.

1460
01:18:19.560 --> 01:18:22.000
Was more like a row. Really, because you did you

1461
01:18:22.000 --> 01:18:24.039
look in the mirror, because you asked me take it out.

1462
01:18:24.039 --> 01:18:26.479
Now that's pretty much back to normal. It looks like

1463
01:18:26.520 --> 01:18:29.680
you might be a little dehydrated, a little disappointing. Do

1464
01:18:29.720 --> 01:18:32.159
you want to tell everyone how you locked me outside

1465
01:18:32.199 --> 01:18:32.600
this week?

1466
01:18:33.079 --> 01:18:35.840
I didn't lock you outside at all. You locked yourself outside,

1467
01:18:36.079 --> 01:18:39.199
I'm pretty sure is what happened. And you texted I

1468
01:18:39.199 --> 01:18:39.560
don't know.

1469
01:18:39.680 --> 01:18:42.520
I think you could have done it covertly when I like.

1470
01:18:42.560 --> 01:18:44.600
Well, our screen on our when we go out to

1471
01:18:44.640 --> 01:18:47.560
our back deck, the little lock thing is a little

1472
01:18:47.640 --> 01:18:48.439
bit touchy.

1473
01:18:48.560 --> 01:18:51.720
So because you were convinced that someone has locked you

1474
01:18:51.760 --> 01:18:54.680
out and no, it's just I don't know what happens.

1475
01:18:54.680 --> 01:18:56.800
It just gets jammed and you really can't open it.

1476
01:18:56.880 --> 01:19:00.319
But it was funny because I texted you, Hey, can

1477
01:19:00.399 --> 01:19:04.159
you let me in? The door is locked, and you

1478
01:19:04.199 --> 01:19:07.159
didn't answer me for like five minutes. And then It's

1479
01:19:07.159 --> 01:19:09.199
just kind of funny because it didn't even occur to

1480
01:19:09.199 --> 01:19:12.399
me that I should go down the deck stairs, walk

1481
01:19:12.399 --> 01:19:14.920
around the house and get in and one of the

1482
01:19:14.960 --> 01:19:17.520
other many doors that we have inside our house. I

1483
01:19:17.560 --> 01:19:19.239
was just staying me in.

1484
01:19:19.680 --> 01:19:21.520
Well, I saw your text when it came in, but

1485
01:19:21.600 --> 01:19:24.359
I was actually I was in a meeting and it

1486
01:19:24.399 --> 01:19:26.159
wasn't just a meeting where I could step away from.

1487
01:19:26.199 --> 01:19:28.520
I was actually in the middle of talking in the meeting, right.

1488
01:19:28.560 --> 01:19:30.720
But I was a little concerned because if your wife

1489
01:19:30.760 --> 01:19:33.239
is like, I can't get in the house, it's an emergency,

1490
01:19:33.399 --> 01:19:35.520
which I don't think I exactly said. I would think

1491
01:19:35.520 --> 01:19:38.319
that you would just quickly pardon yourself from a meeting,

1492
01:19:38.439 --> 01:19:41.800
because you're not a neurosurgeon, right right, and you're not, like,

1493
01:19:42.039 --> 01:19:44.680
you know, charge of the nuclear code.

1494
01:19:44.479 --> 01:19:46.840
Talking about a very important thing in our meeting about

1495
01:19:46.840 --> 01:19:49.680
our website. That is, Oh, I'm sure that couldn't. And

1496
01:19:49.720 --> 01:19:52.359
I knew that you could if you really wanted to

1497
01:19:52.439 --> 01:19:56.000
walk around the outside of the house and get in

1498
01:19:56.319 --> 01:19:57.880
through the garage door.

1499
01:19:58.880 --> 01:20:02.479
I wasn't mad, really the door wasn't even locked.

1500
01:20:02.560 --> 01:20:05.560
But well, in either case, thank goodness you made it

1501
01:20:05.600 --> 01:20:07.840
back into the house. I would have felt really awful

1502
01:20:08.119 --> 01:20:09.760
if you.

1503
01:20:09.159 --> 01:20:11.199
Could have gotten the sunburned. Do you know how pale

1504
01:20:11.239 --> 01:20:15.000
this this lady is. I know, speaking of how pale

1505
01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:18.119
I am, you're talking about spray cans and I have

1506
01:20:18.159 --> 01:20:21.399
never had a spray tn in my whole four hundred

1507
01:20:21.479 --> 01:20:23.640
years of life. Well, you kind of have a nice

1508
01:20:25.319 --> 01:20:27.439
you have a nice color to your skin. You have

1509
01:20:27.520 --> 01:20:28.640
kind of an olive.

1510
01:20:28.760 --> 01:20:31.840
Yeah, do you want to get a sprayn? No?

1511
01:20:32.159 --> 01:20:35.039
Not really, No, No, I think I'm okay with being.

1512
01:20:34.880 --> 01:20:37.199
Pale, but I think you look great so too.

1513
01:20:37.199 --> 01:20:41.279
Well, I have your self tanner before, but not in

1514
01:20:41.279 --> 01:20:42.119
a really long time.

1515
01:20:42.800 --> 01:20:44.079
I don't recall ever seeing that.

1516
01:20:44.319 --> 01:20:46.159
One more thing that I wanted to mention, And this

1517
01:20:46.279 --> 01:20:49.039
is kind of funny. One of my many toxic traits

1518
01:20:49.520 --> 01:20:53.920
is that our house isn't like immaculate. But if I'm ever,

1519
01:20:54.079 --> 01:20:56.520
like you know, in that situation where the police have

1520
01:20:56.600 --> 01:20:59.560
to come in the house I want them to buy,

1521
01:21:00.279 --> 01:21:02.399
I can say, well, this is a this is a

1522
01:21:02.479 --> 01:21:06.479
really nicely decorated home. Like before the paramedics saved my life.

1523
01:21:06.600 --> 01:21:07.199
You know any of that.

1524
01:21:07.279 --> 01:21:09.439
I want them to look around and well organized. Everything

1525
01:21:09.520 --> 01:21:10.119
is in a place.

1526
01:21:10.600 --> 01:21:15.039
Look at this spice cabinet. It's Alpha twice. This woman

1527
01:21:15.399 --> 01:21:18.520
she's just on point. She's amazing. Let's just save her life. Now.

1528
01:21:19.199 --> 01:21:20.920
They want it to be in the police report.

1529
01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:21.640
I'm sure it was.

1530
01:21:21.720 --> 01:21:23.039
The house was a maculate.

1531
01:21:23.159 --> 01:21:26.720
It'll be on dateline actively decorated. Keith Morison will be.

1532
01:21:27.399 --> 01:21:30.479
The host was a maculate. Everything was in its place.

1533
01:21:30.720 --> 01:21:33.479
Tina, she really just you know, she was.

1534
01:21:33.560 --> 01:21:35.760
She could light up a room, but she really knew

1535
01:21:35.760 --> 01:21:36.479
how to organize.

1536
01:21:37.600 --> 01:21:39.640
You watch me light up a room now, mister.

1537
01:21:40.960 --> 01:21:42.920
Pick your priorities. Is it lighting up a room or

1538
01:21:42.960 --> 01:21:44.399
is it having an immaculate house?

1539
01:21:44.600 --> 01:21:45.319
Yeah?

1540
01:21:45.439 --> 01:21:48.239
Well, once again you've wasted a perfectly good hour and

1541
01:21:48.359 --> 01:21:51.760
twenty minutes listening to Love Mary Kill. We appreciate it.

1542
01:21:52.079 --> 01:21:54.279
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1543
01:21:54.600 --> 01:21:58.239
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1544
01:21:58.600 --> 01:22:02.000
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1545
01:22:02.439 --> 01:22:06.800
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1546
01:22:06.800 --> 01:22:09.640
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1547
01:22:09.880 --> 01:22:12.960
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1550
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01:22:21.800 --> 01:22:58.199
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1552
01:23:09.680 --> 01:23:13.720
Fractures of the hyoid bone. I'm gonna go take on

1553
01:23:13.760 --> 01:23:17.439
the app alright one more time. Fractures of the hyoid point,

1554
01:23:18.479 --> 01:23:23.800
what's getting worse? Getting worse? Fractures of the I'm necessarily

1555
01:23:23.840 --> 01:23:31.960
laughing high weid bone, hioid, hioid, higoid aid, Oh boy, Okay,

1556
01:23:32.199 --> 01:23:32.840
lot more time